Sport at the elite level, even for those few geniuses who can routinely do what others can only dream of, typically appears to be about obvious effort and relentless industry.

You try harder, you do better. You feel the pressure and you respond to it. You impose yourself upon rivals through physical dominance and force of personality.
In a sport like rugby union, where players have never been bigger, faster, or hit harder for longer, might is right like never before. Which makes the continual influence of Dan Carter not just illogical but something close to miraculous.
On Saturday evening in Lyon, Carter - the leading points scorer in Test history, reigning World Rugby player of the year, World Cup winner for a second time seven months ago - will, in characteristically undemonstrative fashion, lead Racing 92's charge as they take on Saracens in the Champions Cup final.
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The All Blacks great is not only a physical throw-back in a game increasingly for the outsized and enormous. At 5ft 10in and 14 stone, the 34-year-old plays an old-fashioned way: finding space where others seek contact, appearing unhurried when fly-halves have never had less time, still managing to play on instinct when set moves and patterns are everywhere you look.
It's not that Carter doesn't do the nasty stuff. In Racing's semi-final win over Leicester Tigers he made 16 tackles.
It's how he does it. Whereas Jonny Wilkinson, the original big-hitting number 10, stopped opposition runners like a rogue flanker and brought gasps from the stands and lungs of the victim alike, Carter tackles like he does everything else - with economy rather than anger, with perfect yet undemonstrative technique, with efficiency over ostentation.
Carter is not quite the player he was. The outside break and sudden acceleration that defined so many of his early masterclasses have quietly been lost to the years. It doesn't really matter. In his swansong he appears to worry less about what he lacks than utilise what he does.
If it wasn't the sort of thing that in his home town of Southbridge would trigger disbelief - expressed, because this is the South Island of New Zealand, by something as flamboyant as a raised eyebrow or muted cough - you'd say it was all rather Zen: the impossible calm in a sporting storm, the balance between self and team, equanimity in even the biggest occasions.
There is the ritual of his relentless kicking practice, whether at the posts that his father put up next to the family home or on the foreign fields of France; the meditation brought about by those repeated simple actions; the carefully constructed humility of an All Blacks environment where 100-cap heroes like Carter and retired captain Richie McCaw were expected to clean up the dressing room like backroom juniors.
And it is all done in the most unobtrusive way. Wilkinson kicked from the tee with such exaggerated movements that half-cut punters in pubs could do impressions. Dan Biggar has his little soft-shoe shuffle, the 'Biggarena'. Owen Farrell, Carter's opposite number on Saturday, has the laser eyes and robotic head-turn.
Carter? Even after so many penalties and conversions, it's still hard to remember exactly how he looks in sweet motion. The fact that he has been the same with ball in hand - perfectly timed passes or offloads, but all done in the most discreet and understated way - have sometimes made it hard for people to understand what has made him so special. He doesn't always stand out, so how can he be outstanding?
"He's fascinating," admits Ronan O'Gara, arguably Ireland's finest fly-half and now, in early retirement, assistant coach at Carter's Racing.
"He's just extremely humble, extremely respectful. He smiles, he always finds a way of getting the job done.
"He doesn't stress, he's always polite, he's a breath of fresh air. You can learn an awful lot by just watching him."
Carter isn't the only sporting great who can appear to be operating in slow-motion and fast-forward at the same time, but he maintains that composure longer than most.
Tennis' Roger Federer at his best was both unhurried and unflustered, but at the moment of victory all that held-back emotion would come crashing out. In cricket, Chris Gayle remains expressionless when thrashing unfortunate bowlers for six after six, but will dance with his top off when victory has been won.
Lionel Messi, for all the gossamer touches with that left foot, is all beautiful bustle and obvious energy, Cristiano Ronaldo all strut and preen on the football pitch.
Even Tiger Woods, who before his fall could hold his form and nerve in the final-round meltdown like no other golfer, would spit and cuss his way round the course when the mojo left his side.
Carter, in the biggest moments he has faced, has looked as perturbed as if he were back at Christchurch Boys' High School, from the second Test against the Lions in 2005, when he turned in a performance that led to him being described as "the perfect 10", all the way through to last October's World Cup final.
Against the Wallabies at Twickenham that day, there was a moment to epitomise so much of what had come before: the All Blacks suddenly under huge pressure, their 17-point lead cut to just four with 15 minutes to go.
In his first 110 Tests Carter had landed a total of just six drop-goals. A week after adding another to put away South Africa in the semi-finals, he took a pass flat with the defence charging, his feet and eyes set for the short pass to Sonny Bill Williams on his outside shoulder.
Forty metres out, the game's greatest prize in the balance, chaos all around. Not for Carter. Instead, a little pocket of space and tranquillity and time where no-one else could see it, a turn of the shoulders and hips, a perfect contact with his left boot to send the ball arcing between the sticks.
Wilkinson was also touched by Eastern philosophy, first by Buddhism as cruel injuries kept keeping him out, later by a Japanese school of thought called Kaizen.
Because of the man that Wilkinson is, that was more about a tortured form of self-improvement. "You imagine being watched by a video 24/7 to help you get better each day and make good decisions," he has said.
For Farrell, who shares much of Wilkinson's dedication, Saturday is also about a particular kind of personal development.
After his yellow card in the critical World Cup group match against Australia and the two-week ban for a dangerous tackle after Saracens' Champions Cup semi-final win over Wasps, he will be watching Carter not just to keep his influence in check but to learn from the old master too.
"It's just how calm he is, how much he is in control of what he does that stands out," the fiery Farrell says.
"Trying to be calmer on the pitch, it's definitely something I'm always trying to do. The more you're calm, the more you're in control and the more you're thinking about the right things."
Carter in control. The career moves on, but the philosophy remains the same.
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Folk star Shirley Collins, who was robbed of her voice for 30 years by an emotional crisis, has been nominated for two Radio 2 Folk Awards.

The 81-year-old is up for singer of the year, while Lodestar, her first record since 1978, is up for best album.
Collins was an immensely important figure in Britain's folk-rock scene in the 1960s, thanks to her pared-down singing style and strong storytelling.
But her career was cut short by the end of her marriage in the late 1970s.
The star's second husband, Ashley Hutchings, left her for a young actress who took to showing up at Collins' performances.
One night, during a performance of Lark Rise at London's National Theatre, she froze on-stage and found herself unable to sing.
"My voice just... my throat locked," she told NPR last year. "I was trying not to weep. Some nights I could manage a few notes, sometimes nothing came out at all when I opened my mouth. And it was in front of an audience, you know, and the band."
Collins developed a form of dysphonia, a condition often associated with psychological trauma.
In the years that followed, she wrote books while working in charity shops and a job centre to support herself. But her music was discovered by a younger generation of fans - including Blur's Graham Coxon and the Decemberists' Colin Meloy.
Eventually, she was coaxed back onto the stage - and released her new album to wide acclaim last year.
Collins is nominated for singer of the year alongside Ireland's Daoiri Farrell, Scottish musician Kris Drever, and five-time Folk Award winner Jim Causley.
Farrell has the most nominations, three in all, while Songs of Separation  - a project inspired by the Scottish referendum, featuring Eliza Carthy, Karine Polwart and Jenny Hill - has two.
US folk icon Woody Guthrie will be inducted to the Folk Awards Hall of Fame on the 50th anniversary of his death.
The author of classics such as Do Re Mi, Pretty Boy Floyd and This Train Is Bound For Glory, his songs were a major influence on popular music, and have been covered by the likes of Van Morrison, Bruce Springsteen and Bob Dylan.
Just this week, Lady Gaga sang a portion of his civil rights anthem This Land Is Your Land in a thinly-veiled attack on Donald Trump at the Super Bowl.
Billy Bragg, who made a Grammy award-winning album with Wilco based on unused Woody Guthrie lyrics, will pay tribute to the star with a headline performance at the awards.
Scottish singer-songwriter Al Stewart, best known for the hit single Year Of The Cat, will also perform, after being honoured with the lifetime achievement award.
Mark Radcliffe and Julie Fowlis will present the awards at London's Royal Albert Hall on Wednesday, 5 April. The ceremony will be broadcast live on BBC Radio 2.
Radio 2 Folk Awards 2017: Full list of nominations
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Plans to re-generate the former St Patrick's Army barracks site in Ballymena could turn the area into an "economic powerhouse", says Communities Minister Paul Givan.

The 36-acre site has been left derelict since the Ministry of Defence decided to close the barracks in 2006.
The proposed development could cost up to Â£200m but the minister said the money would be made available.
Plans for the site include social housing and an open-air event space.
The plans are now open to public consultation so local people can give their opinion on the development.
The Ministry of Defence gifted the barracks to the Northern Ireland executive back in 2011, and now they have announced how they plan to develop the site.
"This is an exciting opportunity for Ballymena. It's nearly 40 acres of land that we want to develop which could create Â£200m of investment and we're working with a range of stakeholders to achieve that," said Mr Givan.
"We want to hear what people think so that we can really push forward, the economic opportunities here for the people of Ballymena  to make this a real economic power house for this area."
Anne Donaghy, the chief executive of Mid and East Antrim Council, said it was a massive project for Ballymena.
"It will be something that will change the look of Ballymena and change the industry in Ballymena," she said.
"We're hoping to get industry in here from technology as well as public services and some housing as well."
The mayor of Mid and East Antrim Council, Audrey Wales, said bringing jobs into the area was a top priority.
"This site will take about Â£200m to develop and it is so close to our town centre that it can just help to regenerate our whole town centre," she said.
"It is an awful lot of money but with the support of the department and funding through council I believe this is achievable.
"There are so many people committed to making this happen and if you believe that something is going to happen and you work positively towards it then it will happen."
When asked about they money for the development, Mr Givan said it would be attainable.
"There will be the money made available for this," he said.
"We recognise there needs to be investment in our infrastructure, we need to create the opportunity for jobs to be located here in this area.
"But this is a key site for us to develop for me as minister and for the executive as an opportunity to provide the regeneration that Ballymena needs."


Iona is 13 and already has a collection of prosthetic legs.

She was diagnosed with cancer in her right leg at the age of five, just a year after losing her mother to the same illness.
Over the past seven years, she has been fitted with 17 different leg "sockets" and needs a new one every six months as she grows.
Iona, from Glasgow, tells a BBC Alba documentary: "My first one was quite big because after my operation my leg was quite swollen.
"I remember the first question I ever asked the person that deals with my leg was 'will I be able to paint my toes still?'"
Trying to maintain normality is still very important to the teenager.
As she considers her latest prosthetic limb at the WestMARC rehabilitation centre, she says: "I asked to keep the toes out of the cover so in the summer I can wear flip-flops."
Iona says the foot of the prosthetic limb has toes but is covered by a protective sock.
"I like to see my toes," she says. "I prefer that, because everyone has toes."
Her father Steven Hay tells the programme that Iona has adapted to losing her leg but the news of her cancer came at a traumatic time for the family.
He had lost his wife, Iona's mother, to the disease a year before his daughter was diagnosed.
Mr Hay says: "My wife had cancer just before this and then you have another one in the family so soon, it clearly makes you wonder what is going on.
"I think I did find it difficult to tell the other children because their previous experience of what cancer does is that it kills.
"It was difficult and we presented it in the context of a completely different type of cancer and there is an obvious treatment for this."
He says that initially it was thought that Iona's tumour could be reduced through chemotherapy and removed.
"Unfortunately it did not work out quite that way," he says.
"The cancer was growing too fast so they decided they would have to amputate below the knee."
Iona says: "They were going to take the tumour out and replace it with a bit of metal but they thought I'd drag my leg and not be able to do things any more so they thought of an amputation.
"I did not really get much choice but I'm really happy that they went for that.
"They gave me an amputation the week before I turned six."
Her father says: "Iona has adjusted pretty well.
"She's a bubbly person, she didn't have any particular worries about what was happening. She just loves dancing and it's helped her be creative and express herself.
"She's been able to get back to normal life."
Iona has several legs for the different activities and sports she plays such as hockey, gymnastics and dancing.
Her twin sister Niamh says Iona does everything everyone else does.
"I just forget that she's got a prosthetic," she says.
At WestMARC, the main rehabilitation centre for the West of Scotland, prosthetist Alison Morton says: "There are certain ages that are milestones in their development and how they approach their limb and how they feel about their limb.
"One of those is going to school, another is when they reach that high school/puberty age, where looks are important, how people perceive them are important."
But Iona says: "I don't think I'm getting self-conscious about my leg. That is who I am.
"I think I can just accept that and let other people just accept that. They can say what they want but this is me."
She adds: "I guess having a prosthetic leg makes me proud to be someone different, someone unique, someone that isn't just any ordinary person, someone special.
"It also makes me more determined."
Ceum air Cheum/ Step by Step will be broadcast on BBC Alba at 21:00 on Thursday 6 April.


The US and Iraq should investigate claims of abuse contained in files published on the Wikileaks website, the UN's rights chief says.

Navi Pillay said the files suggested US forces had continued to hand detainees to Iraqi authorities despite evidence that they had been tortured.
Meanwhile, the UN's adviser on torture, Manfred Novak, called for a wider inquiry to include alleged US abuses.
The US military has denied turning a blind eye to torture in Iraq.
On Monday, Gen George Casey, who was in charge of US forces in Iraq from 2004 to 2007, said all soldiers were instructed to report any allegations of abuse.
But Ms Pillay said the Wikileaks disclosure of almost 400,000 secret war logs added to her concerns that serious breaches of international human rights law had occurred in Iraq.
"The US and Iraqi authorities should take necessary measures to investigate all allegations made in these reports and to bring to justice those responsible for unlawful killings, summary executions, torture and other serious human rights abuses," she said in a statement.
Mr Novak said it was not enough to investigate only what happened in Iraq.
He urged US President Barack Obama to launch a full investigation into all allegations of torture against US military and intelligence officials.
He said the inquiry should include accounts of US agents handing detainees to states such as Egypt, Morocco and Syria, knowing they would be ill treated.
Mr Novak told journalists he now received far fewer allegations of torture than he had done during the so-called war on terror launched by former US President George W Bush.
But he pointed out that Mr Obama, like his predecessor, had refused to grant private interviews with detainees, and had invoked state secrecy privileges to prevent civil lawsuits by alleged victims of US torture.


Boris Johnson has defended his writing of a pro-EU article days before he publicly backed Brexit, saying the article was "semi-parodic" and the UK's decision to leave was right.

In a newspaper column drafted in February, and now published by the Sunday Times, he suggested staying in the EU would be a "boon for the world".
Mr Johnson says he was "wrestling with the issue" at the time and was merely trying to make the "alternative case".
Critics accused him of "duplicity".
Mr Johnson was a leading figure in the campaign to exit the EU and became foreign secretary after the Leave vote in the June referendum.
Amid growing pressure on the government to spell out its negotiating objectives for Brexit, Mr Johnson insisted last week that the UK could get a trade deal that was "of greater value" to the economy than access to the EU single market, which he described as an "increasingly useless" concept.
But in February's pro-Remain column, Mr Johnson backed membership of the free trade zone, describing it as "a market on our doorstep, ready for further exploitation by British firms".
He added: "The membership fee seems rather small for all that access. Why are we so determined to turn our back on it?"
In the article, which was produced at the same time as a pro-Brexit article published in the Telegraph, Mr Johnson also warned Brexit could lead to an economic shock, Scottish independence and Russian aggression.
He wrote: "There are some big questions that the 'out' side need to answer. Almost everyone expects there to be some sort of economic shock as a result of a Brexit.
"How big would it be? I am sure that the doomsters are exaggerating the fallout - but are they completely wrong? And how can we know?"
Mr Johnson had previously admitted to writing the pro-Remain piece but its contents had not been known until now - having been revealed in a new book by Sunday Times political editor Tim Shipman, All Out War.
Asked whether he had changed his views on the issue, Mr Johnson said before the referendum was called "everybody was trying to make up their minds".
"It's perfectly true that I was wrestling with it, like a lot of people in this country," he said.
"And I wrote a long piece which came down overwhelmingly in favour of leaving.
"I then thought, I'd better see if I can make the alternative case to myself, so I wrote a kind of semi-parodic article in the opposite sense, which has mysteriously found its way into the paper this morning, as I think I might have sent it to a friend.
"I set them side by side and it was blindingly obvious what the right thing to do was."
Shipman said Mr Johnson's column contradicted positions he had adopted since joining the cabinet following Theresa May's appointment as prime minister - but also "dispels the myth that Johnson's case for remain was better than his argument to leave".
Lib Dem foreign affairs spokesman Tom Brake said it would "confirm many people's suspicion that he put his own career ahead of the interests of the country".
"Boris was bang on about the threat of Brexit to the economy and the unity of the country - it is a shame he did not listen to his own warning."
Leave campaigners say pre-referendum forecasts of an immediate economic shock failed to materialise, although critics of Brexit point to the fall in the value of the pound against the dollar and the euro as evidence.
Former deputy prime minister Nick Clegg, who supported a Remain vote, suggested Mr Johnson and other "opportunists and chancers" backing Brexit had lied to the British people during the referendum campaign about the economic impact of Brexit.
"If I was a Brexit voter, I would feel increasingly betrayed that I voted in the belief that all these Brexiteers knew what they were doing," he told the BBC's Andrew Marr Show.
"I would be increasingly angry that these people, months after the referendum, still won't come clean about what they mean by Brexit."
Mr Clegg, who is part of a cross-party campaign urging a parliamentary vote on the UK's negotiating strategy with the EU, said having a "sensible and coherent plan" in place before beginning official talks would "strengthen" Mrs May's hand.
But International Development Secretary Priti Patel warned against MPs "using Parliament as a vehicle to subvert the democratic will of the British people".
She told Marr that MPs were already debating the government's strategy on a daily basis - pointing to two statements made by ministers during the past week.
"The job of the government is to deliver the result of the referendum. The British people have spoken and we are going to deliver for them."
The prime minister has said she wants the best access to EU markets for British business after Brexit but has signalled she also wants limits on freedom of movement - which EU leaders say is incompatible with continued membership of the single market.
On Sunday, First Minister Nicola Sturgeon said she believed a deal could be reached that would allow Scotland to retain access to the single market after Brexit.


Ross County's Australian midfielder Jackson Irvine says joining the Dingwall club after leaving Celtic has been a big step in his development.

Irvine has added the Premiership player of the month award for March to his recent League Cup winner's medal.
He was man of the match as County earned their first major trophy in last month's 2-1 League Cup final over Hibs.
He initially joined County on loan from Celtic in 2014 and signed a two-year deal with the Highlanders last year.
"It's obviously really nice to win individual plaudits and coming with the month we had winning the Cup final, it's been amazing," Irvine told BBC Scotland.
"It's pretty special the turnaround we've had in the last year from fighting relegation to lifting trophies and winning awards.
"I've come such a long way and I've got everyone at the club to thank. Individual awards only come as a result of you playing in a team and my team mates have been spectacular this season."
Irvine believes playing regular first-team football in his natural midfield position has enabled him to progress under manager Jim McIntyre.
"This club's been pretty fantastic for me," he said.
"Playing games at this age is so important and the manager's stuck with me and has always had faith in me, playing me in my natural position as well. It's been a really big step for my development."
With silverware already in the trophy cabinet, attention turns to one last tilt at earning what was the primary objective at the start of the season, a place in the top six.
"Unfortunately it's out of our hands now in terms of finishing in the top six," Irvine continued.
"All we can do is go out on Saturday and get the best result we can against Partick Thistle and hope that results go our way.
"It's frustrating, sitting in fourth or fifth for the majority of the season. That's football. The league's been so tight throughout this whole season. Hopefully a win on Saturday will be enough.
"It's frustrating if we don't manage it but it's not over yet and we'll assess that again after the weekend when we find out which half of the table we're in."


A businessman has been cleared of conspiracy to rob a warehouse in which a company director was shot dead.

A trial jury was directed to find Asif Aurangzaib, from Derby, not guilty over the botched robbery of a fast food warehouse in Birmingham.
Judge Philip Parker said there was "insufficient evidence" against the 25-year-old, and he was found not guilty of conspiring to rob Direct Source 3.
Two others are still on trial accused of murdering Akhtar Javeed, 56.
Suraj Mistry, who is accused of being one of two gunmen, and Lemar Wali, who is alleged to have been the getaway driver, deny murder, conspiracy to rob the warehouse and two counts each of possession of a pistol with intent to cause fear or violence.
A third man, Tahir Zarif, of Osmaston Road in Derby, is said to have "played a central role" by the prosecution, with the Crown's barrister alleging it was he who shot Mr Javeed as he tried to flee the scene.
At the start of the Birmingham Crown Court trial earlier this month, the jury heard that Zarif was believed to have fled to Pakistan after the 3 February raid in the Digbeth area of the city.
Mistry, of Laundon Way in Leicester, and Zarif owned a ran a bodyshop in Derby called ATS Detailing and Wrap, while Wali, of Osmaston Park Road, Derby, knew both men.
Meanwhile, jurors have been told by the prosecution that "inside man" Sander van Aalten, of Kyrwicks Lane in Birmingham, has already admitted conspiracy to rob the warehouse.
The trial continues.


In-form Barnsley stretched their run of successive league wins to five by beating Yorkshire rivals Bradford City.

Marley Watkins headed past Bradford goalkeeper Ben Williams after latching on to George Williams' perfect cross.
The midfielder also went close soon after but curled his shot wide after a mazy run, while Josh Morris fizzed his drive wide at the other end.
Bradford's best chance of the second half saw Jamie Proctor miss an open goal from distance.
Barnsley climb to 13th in the table and are two points behind 11th-placed Bradford, who are five points adrift of the play-offs.


Police are hunting a driver who fled after flipping a car onto its roof on a busy Cardiff street.

Two other vehicles were damaged when the car overturned on Broadway in the Adamsdown area of the city.
The incident happened at about 05:15 BST on Saturday.
South Wales Police said it appeared nobody was injured in the crash, and the vehicle was removed and the road reopened by about 06:30.


A man has been charged in connection with 43 crimes committed across Edinburgh.

James McKinnon, 20, from Edinburgh, was arrested on Wednesday at a flat in Moredun on seven outstanding warrants.
He faced 13 charges when he appeared at Edinburgh Sheriff Court on Thursday.
They included two of housebreaking with intent to steal and 11 charges connected with the theft of vehicles. Mr McKinnon made no plea or declaration and was remanded in custody.
A 36-year-old woman was charged under the Misuse of Drugs Act after a cannabis cultivation of 13 plants, estimated to be worth more than Â£1,500, was found at the address.


A fashion designer has been charged with inciting hatred on social media and imprisoned - a day after he came under attack at Istanbul's main airport.

Barbaros Sansal is an outspoken critic of Turkey's ruling Justice and Development Party.
On New Year's Eve, he posted a video on his Twitter account angrily denouncing those out celebrating "while there is so much filth, vileness and poverty" in the country.
He also spoke of "scores of journalists" jailed in Turkey as well as abused children, corruption and bribery.
Shortly afterwards, a gunman attacked one of the most famous nightclubs in Istanbul, killing 39 people. The attack was claimed by jihadist group Islamic State.
The following day Mr Sansal was expelled from Turkish-controlled northern Cyprus where he was on holiday.
As he was leaving the plane in Istanbul, he was attacked by passengers on the same Turkish Airlines flight along with baggage handlers shouting "traitor!"
Mr Sansal was rushed away from the scene by what are believed to have been plainclothes policemen, who had come to arrest him as he landed.
Video footage of the attack on Mr Sansal was shared thousands of times on social media.
How such an attack took place at an international airport has prompted concerns about security failure.
There are also questions about whether it was an organised attack.
Local reports suggested that 20 people identified as airport employees were questioned by police.
"We could not resist our national feelings. We shouted. But due to a police cordon we could not do anything," one of them reportedly said. However, other workers acknowledged that the fashion designer was subjected to physical violence.
And it is Barbaros Sansal who has been detained, in one of the biggest prisons in Turkey, where many imprisoned journalists are being held.
He is accused of "inciting hatred among the public" for his outspoken comments.
Some have praised the treatment he was given. Ankara Mayor Melih Gokcek posted footage of the incident calling it "the nation's response".
One tweet read: "The man swears at the country and they defend him. Whoever defends him is also a traitor."
"Whoever you are, if you are not happy about being a Turk or living in this country, no-one forces you to stay here. Just go," read another.
Turkey has a poor record on free speech, with at least 81 journalists behind bars, according to the New York-based Committee to Protect Journalists (CPJ), and more than 130 media outlets have been shut since the failed coup last July.


Adopting a suitable facial expression for a meeting is a skill worth mastering, writes author and Financial Times columnist Lucy Kellaway.

A colleague of the new prime minister was recently asked to describe his boss's style. "She just sits there in cabinet looking exasperated in a poised way."
I read this and a light bulb went on.
To go through meetings looking exasperated but poised is what we should all be aiming for. It is superior but never rude. It is powerful but not dishonest. It is a bit forbidding. A little regal.
It is just perfect.
This question of how to arrange your face when you are sitting round a table at work listening to other people talk is important. The average executive spends about four hours a day in meetings, most of which is spent in silence half-listening to the person talking while studying the faces of the people who are not.
This suggests we have got it all wrong. We fret about the impression we make when we speak, but spend no time worrying about how we come across when we are silent.
The other day I was sent a photo of a panel I had recently been on, taken by someone in the audience.
Two of the panellists are looking away from the person talking. Two appear catatonic. I am looking a little mad, with eyes popping in incredulity and a slight smirk around the mouth. Only one of us got it right. He had composed his face into a mask of polite yet sceptical interest.
Our meetings faces are too important to be allowed to compose themselves. The most common look in meetings (at least on the faces of those not talking) is boredom, which is never a good look. The vacant slouch creates an air of gormlessness, while the slack muscles make you look ancient and exhausted.
Being so bored that you go to sleep is the worst look there is. Kay Whitmore, chief executive of Kodak in the 1990s, was more infamous for falling asleep in a meeting with Bill Gates, than for helping to run his company into the ground.
While nodding off is fatal, nodding in general can be excellent. For nine years I sat on the board of a company and so must have spent several hundred hours watching some of the country's finest non-executive directors nod.
It turns out there are different sorts of nods that come in handy at different times. The more complex the material under discussion, the more a medium speed nod makes you look clever and on the ball, while a slower 'I'm considering this' nod can also come in handy.
Otherwise, the rules for meetings faces are the opposite of the rules for office expressions in general.
While smiling is usually a good plan as it makes other people feel better, in meetings it is to be avoided, unless someone has made a joke, as it can make you look unserious, too keen, and possibly sycophantic. Sucking up, though sometimes necessary, is so demeaning it must never be done in public.
Frowning, generally bad in offices, is essential in meetings. It implies you are thinking deeply and can distance you from whatever decisions are being taken. Better still it implies superiority: you could do it better yourself.
You could say that we are stuck with the expressions we were born with. But that's not true.
I have been spending quite a bit of time in front of the mirror being poised and exasperated. It was hard at first, but I've just tried again and, by George, I think I've got it.
Lucy Kellaway is an author and Financial Times columnist. Listen to her on Business Daily and World Business Report on BBC World Service every Monday.


Shares in Associated British Foods rose 2.6% after the company reported a better-than-expected performance from its Primark clothing chain.

AB Foods said third-quarter revenues were up 13% when exchange rate movements were stripped out, and 20% higher at actual exchange rates.
The firm said its results were better than forecast because of "stronger profit delivery from Primark".
In the UK, Primark's total sales for the year to date are up 9%.
AB Foods' shares were up 6% in early trade before slipping back, but they still ended the day as the biggest riser on the FTSE 100. However, the index itself closed down 30.32 points or 0.41% at 7,337.28.
Shares in consumer health giant Reckitt Benckiser fell 1.5% after the company cut its revenue growth forecast as a result of last week's cyber-attack.
Reckitt - whose products include Nurofen and Cillit Bang - said like-for-like revenue growth in the second quarter of the year would fall by 2% as a result of the disruption to manufacturing caused by the attack.
In addition, it said continued production difficulties in some factories meant that "we also expect to lose some further revenue permanently".
Reckitt said it now expected like-for-like net revenue growth of 2% for the full year, down from its previous estimate of 3%.
On the currency markets, the pound rose 0.26% against the dollar to $1.2967 and fell 0.2% against the euro to 1.1370 euros.


A Stirling primary school has pioneered a scheme  to ensure all of its pupils walk or run a mile every day.

Children at St Ninian's Primary take the daily exercise on a specially built circuit outside the school's playground.
The "daily mile" scheme is credited with improving the health of pupils, and a number of other schools are now looking at copying it.
The extra 15 minutes of exercise a day is in addition to PE classes.
Head teacher Elaine Wyllie said the scheme was developed three years ago after a school volunteer realised the children lacked stamina.
She said: "A volunteer in the school said the children weren't fit, and so we decided to test them.
"We got some of the children to run around the field, but they couldn't - they were exhausted very, very quickly.
"So we then thought, we have this path around the field, could we actually run them around it a few times and get them fit?
"We did it with one class, and very shortly all the classes were doing it - it was that simple."
The daily exercise is not timetabled; teachers take their classes out at a time of their choosing. P5 teacher Martin Anderson said the children were only out of their seats for 15 minutes.
He said: "It's really not time-intrusive at all.
"It's also developing the children's social, emotional and mental wellbeing. They're able to come outside and socialise with their peers in a different way than they would at lunch or playtime."
Stirling University is studying the children's health and wellbeing, and a number of schools have already copied the "daily mile" initiative.
At a time when UK-wide studies suggest up to two-thirds of primary school children lack basic fitness, Mrs Wyllie said the scheme is a perfect, and free, solution.
She said: "The benefits according to the staff, the parents and the children are that the children are fit. Not one of our 57 primary one children are overweight as measured by the nurse.
"The children are fit and healthy, they come in energised ready to learn and focused, apple cheeked and bright eyed."


A Chinese star TV anchor is facing "severe punishment" over jokes he made about Mao Zedong, state media report.

A video of Bi Fujian singing a parody song at a private banquet and insulting the former Chinese leader in strong language was posted online in April.
Mr Bi was taken off air shortly after the incident, amid great controversy.
But People's Daily said officials had ordered his employer, state broadcaster CCTV, to punish him for "a serious violation of political discipline".
Mao, who led the country through the Cultural Revolution and a crippling famine which killed millions, remains the subject of much debate.
Mr Bi hosts CCTV's annual hugely popular New Year variety show, and is best known in China for hosting the talent show Star Boulevard.
What did Did Bi Fujian sing?
He sang Taking Tiger Mountain by Strategy, a Mao-era song which dramatises a 1946 incident where a soldier infiltrated and helped to destroy a group of bandits.
In the video, he was seen singing part of the song and interjecting the lyrics with his comments.
"We are the peasant soldiers who have come to the deep mountains - come to the deep mountains to do what, eh?
"To vanquish the reactionaries - can you defeat them?
"Changing the earth and sky, several decades of revolutionary war in the north and south - it was tough enough.
"The Communist Party, Chairman Mao - Ugh, let's not talk about this son of a bitch any longer, he's caused us so much suffering."
Mr Bi's last statement on his Weibo microblog account was an April statement apologising for the incident, saying that his remarks had "created serious adverse consequences... as a public figure I must learn my lesson, and learn to have high standards and strict self-discipline".
News of his punishment has been greeted with a mixed reaction on Weibo, with some criticising the lack of freedom of speech and others arguing that he needed to be punished.
Some noted the swift clampdown on Mr Bi was reminiscent of the brutal purges of dissent during the Cultural Revolution led by Mao.
"He was a bit too much, but he was just talking at the dinner table and someone told on him. If this isn't the Cultural Revolution, then what is?" said user Call Me Lixiumei.
Others also noted that many Weibo posts on the topic had been deleted, particularly comments that praised Mr Bi. China regularly scrubs the microblogging network especially on sensitive topics.
While China officially acknowledges there were faults in Mao, he remains hugely respected, and insulting him and other leaders is a taboo.
His legacy is also growing in popularity among those who feel China has moved too far away from his communist ideals.


Aberdeen manager Derek McInnes has revealed that top scorer Adam Rooney is facing six weeks on the sidelines.

The Irish striker has scored 19 goals for the Dons this season and has been an ever present in the side.
"Adam took a slight strain on his thigh doing some shooting after training on Thursday," McInnes told BBC Scotland.
"It's developed into something a wee bit more. He's going to be for a good few weeks. You would have to suggest it will be in the region of six weeks."
Rooney had been due to make his 100th appearances for Aberdeen against St Johnstone on Saturday.
The Dons also have injuries to Jonny Hayes and Craig Storie, though McInnes said Storie - who signed a new deal with Aberdeen during the week - will be back training on Monday.
"It's a shame for him (Rooney). He was so excited about playing his 100th game," said the Pittodrie manager.
"Some of my comments prior to the game was that he's never injured. To pick up almost 100 appearances in just under two years is quite remarkable.
"We all know the importance of his goals. It's up to others to step up and that's exactly what a squad is all about."
He added: "You have to overcome these things. You can't let it beat you up and use it as an excuse. We still feel we've a good attacking threat in the team."


China's first lunar rover could potentially be saved, despite experiencing mechanical problems, state media report.

The moon rover had "awoken" from its scheduled dormancy and "stands a chance of being saved", a spokesperson quoted by news agency Xinhua said.
The Jade Rabbit suffered a serious mechanical problem in January.
Its deployment on 15 December was the first successful landing on the Moon since 1976.
The lunar rover was expected to operate for about three months.
Earlier reports in Chinese media had suggested that Jade Rabbit, or Yutu in Chinese, had been declared dead on the surface of the moon.
In a report entitled "loss of lunar rover", the China News Service said that the rover "could not be restored to full function on Monday as expected" and was "mourned" by Chinese social media users.
However, Xinhua news agency reported on Thursday that the rover was awake and was able to pick up signals, although it still had a mechanical malfunction.
"At first we were worried the rover could not withstand the low temperatures on the moon, because it entered its dormant state while in an abnormal state. But it is alive," Pei Zhaoyu, a spokesman for the lunar probe programme, said in comments quoted by Xinhua news agency.
"It is still alive, so there is a chance it could be saved," Mr Pei added.
Radio amateurs also reported picking up downlink transmissions from the rover on Wednesday night, correspondents said.
Experts are still trying to work out what caused the malfunction, Xinhua said.
Some reports suggest the problems could have been caused by a build-up of sticky dust on the lunar surface.
The malfunction emerged in late January, before the rover entered its scheduled dormancy period, Xinhua reported at the time.
The rover had been scheduled to become dormant for 14 days during the lunar night, when there would be no sunlight to power its solar panel, reports said.
On the lander:
On the rover:
True value of Jade Rabbit
There were concerns the six-wheeled vehicle did not power down properly and so would not be able to protect itself from the moon's frigid temperatures, the BBC's Celia Hatton in Beijing reports.
Even if the Jade Rabbit's exploration is over, many in China see its original soft landing on the moon, and the first images it beamed back to Earth, as proof of its success, our correspondent adds.
The rover is part of China's Chang'e-3 mission, which is designed to test new technologies, gather scientific data and build intellectual expertise.
News of the rover's awakening generated massive discussion on Chinese social media, with the term "Jade Rabbit" becoming the most searched term on Sina Weibo, a Chinese microblogging platform.
Users expressed happiness at the news the rover, which many called "the rabbit", was awake.
"The little rabbit deliberately woke up today, so it can enjoy Valentine's Day and the Lantern Festival [on Friday]," user Big Belly Onion Knight Mars wrote.


Gavin Swankie scored twice to send Forfar Athletic into the League One play-off final against Peterhead after a thrilling win over Annan Athletic.

Martyn Fotheringham played in Swankie to fire home from 12 yards before Danny Denholm drilled the second before Swankie found the top left-hand corner.
Aidan Smith pulled one back from the spot after being fouled by Grant Adam.
Darren Ramsay fired into the bottom corner for Annan, but Swankie set up Jamie Bain to settle the tie.
The 6-4 aggregte win means that Forfar, who finished runners-up in League Two after leading for much of the season, will face Peterhead, who finished second bottom in League One, over two legs to secure promotion.
Annan, who had been 2-0 up in the first leg, stay another season in the bottom tier.
Match ends, Forfar Athletic 4, Annan Athletic 2.
Second Half ends, Forfar Athletic 4, Annan Athletic 2.
Corner,  Annan Athletic. Conceded by Michael Travis.
Attempt blocked. Marc Scott (Forfar Athletic) right footed shot from outside the box is blocked.
Attempt missed. Rabin Omar (Annan Athletic) left footed shot from outside the box is high and wide to the left.
Foul by Aiden Malone (Forfar Athletic).
Callum Home (Annan Athletic) wins a free kick in the attacking half.
Attempt saved. David Cox (Forfar Athletic) right footed shot from outside the box is saved in the centre of the goal.
Attempt missed. Lewis Milne (Forfar Athletic) right footed shot from outside the box is close, but misses to the right.
Substitution, Forfar Athletic. Lewis Milne replaces Martyn Fotheringham.
Gavin Swankie (Forfar Athletic) is shown the yellow card for a bad foul.
Foul by Gavin Swankie (Forfar Athletic).
Raffi Krissian (Annan Athletic) wins a free kick in the attacking half.
Attempt blocked. Aidan Smith (Annan Athletic) left footed shot from outside the box is blocked.
Attempt blocked. David McKenna (Annan Athletic) right footed shot from the centre of the box is blocked.
Foul by Christopher McLaughlin (Forfar Athletic).
Max Wright (Annan Athletic) wins a free kick in the defensive half.
Thomas O'Brien (Forfar Athletic) wins a free kick in the defensive half.
Foul by Barry Cuddihy (Annan Athletic).
Substitution, Forfar Athletic. Marc Scott replaces Jim Lister.
Substitution, Forfar Athletic. Aiden Malone replaces Danny Denholm.
Substitution, Annan Athletic. Max Wright replaces Gavin Skelton.
Foul by David Cox (Forfar Athletic).
Gavin Skelton (Annan Athletic) wins a free kick in the defensive half.
Attempt saved. Darren Ramsay (Annan Athletic) right footed shot from outside the box is saved in the bottom right corner.
Attempt saved. Gavin Swankie (Forfar Athletic) right footed shot from a difficult angle on the left is saved in the top centre of the goal.
Corner,  Forfar Athletic. Conceded by Blair Currie.
Hand ball by David McKenna (Annan Athletic).
Attempt saved. Eddie Malone (Forfar Athletic) left footed shot from the left side of the box is saved in the bottom left corner.
Corner,  Forfar Athletic. Conceded by Blair Currie.
Attempt missed. Jim Lister (Forfar Athletic) header from the centre of the box is close, but misses the top left corner.
Attempt missed. David McKenna (Annan Athletic) header from the centre of the box is just a bit too high.
Substitution, Annan Athletic. David McKenna replaces Jordan Stewart.
Goal!  Forfar Athletic 4, Annan Athletic 2. Jamie Bain (Forfar Athletic) right footed shot from the centre of the box to the centre of the goal. Assisted by Gavin Swankie.
Grant Adam (Forfar Athletic) wins a free kick in the attacking half.
Foul by Steven Swinglehurst (Annan Athletic).
David Cox (Forfar Athletic) wins a free kick in the defensive half.
Foul by Jordan Stewart (Annan Athletic).
Danny Denholm (Forfar Athletic) wins a free kick on the right wing.
Darren Ramsay (Annan Athletic) is shown the yellow card for a bad foul.


Harry Styles broke down in tears as One Direction took to the stage without Zayn Malik.

The band performed on Wednesday night in Indonesia as news of their bandmate's decision to quit was still breaking around the world.
Harry walked around on stage, head in hands as he started to cry.
A statement released by Zayn Malik on Wednesday said "it's time for me to leave".
It began: "My life with One Direction has been more than I could ever have imagined.
"But, after five years, I feel like it is now the right time for me to leave the band. I'd like to apologise to the fans if I've let anyone down, but I have to do what feels right in my heart.
"I am leaving because I want to be a normal 22-year-old who is able to relax and have some private time out of the spotlight.
"I know I have four friends for life in Louis, Liam, Harry and Niall. I know they will continue to be the best band in the world."
The footage of Harry was taken as the band performed on stage in Indonesia's capital Jakarta, the latest stop on their On The Road Again Tour.
Last week it was announced Zayn had been signed off from the current tour with "stress".
It is unclear from the footage whether Harry, 21, was crying because of the news of Zayn or because fans were showing support by shouting his name.
At one point in the concert Liam Payne reportedly comforted him.
In a black T-shirt and with his hair up in his trademark man bun, Harry wandered around the stage with his head in his hands and wiping away tears.
Liam Payne told his 19.7 million Twitter followers: "So glad to be in bed after a long and strange 24 hours."
Bandmate Harry Styles sent a simple message to his 24.1 million Twitter followers, which read: "All the love as always. H."
Louis Tomlinson has also tweeted: "Your support has been incredible , truly incredible so thank you so much!
"Been a crazy couple of days but know that we are going to work harder than ever to deliver the best album we've ever made for you guys!"
Niall Horan was the last to tweet. He said: "Been a mad few days and your support has been incredible as per usual ! This in turn Spurs us on to make the best music we possibly can.
"Put on great shows / tours for you guys. You are the best fans in the world and you deserve nothing less from us!
"The lads and I arrived in South Africa this morning . We cannot wait to see all you SA fans for the first time and have great shows."
It's not the first time Harry has appeared to cry on stage.
Footage showed him snivelling at a gig in Melbourne, Australia, in 2013 while singing Over Again.
The band, minus Zayn, released a statement on Wednesday confirming to fans that the band would continue as a four-piece.
They will record their fifth album in Zayn's absence and will continue with the remaining dates on the band's world tour.
They were offered words of comfort from Take That's Gary Barlow.
Take That went from a five-piece to a four-piece in 1996 after Robbie Williams left to go solo.
Jason Orange also left the group last year.
Barlow tweeted: "Sending my best to all the 1D boys ! #thatters we've all been there haven't we ? !!!!!"
Cowell's fellow X Factor judge Louis Walsh said he'd heard rumours for a number of weeks that "everything wasn't happy in paradise".
He told Irish radio station RTE Radio One: "The problem with these guys is they've been in a bubble for the last five years, pressure, working, a lot harder than people think, so something had to give.
"So Zayn was the first person just to crack up a little bit."
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At least 20 Chinese Protestants have been detained as they tried to gather for an Easter service in Beijing.

The worshippers, from the Shouwang church, were trying to hold an outdoor service because they are prevented from using their own premises.
Police have recently arrested dozens of people from the church.
The authorities have also been carrying out a wider suppression of dissent - harassing foreign reporters and detaining lawyers and activists.
The most high-profile detainee, artist Ai Weiwei, was taken by police as he tried to board a flight earlier this month.
His family say they do not know where he is, whether he has been charged with an offence, or even whether he has been formally arrested.
China's constitution guarantees freedom of religion, but the Communist Party tries to control where people worship.
There are an estimated 70 million Christians in the country, about 20 million of whom attend government-approved churches.
The rest worship with unregistered groups known as "house" churches.
Such groups are broadly tolerated, but Shouwang leaders have annoyed the authorities in recent weeks by insisting on trying to hold services in the open.
Shouwang is one of Beijing's biggest so-called underground Churches, with more than 1,000 members.
The BBC's Damian Grammaticas in Beijing says police personnel were on every street corner in the area where the worshippers were due to meet on Sunday morning.
He says the authorities rounded up anyone suspected of being a member of the Shouwang church and loaded them on to buses to be driven to police stations.
One of the church's leaders Jin Tianming, who is under house arrest, told AFP news agency that between 20 and 30 members had been detained.
He said they had been taken to several different police stations.
About 100 Shouwang members were held earlier this month, and 12 of its leaders are under house arrest.
Bob Fu, of the US-based Christian China Aid Association, says the crackdown on Christian worship is wider than Beijing.
He says churchgoers in the southern city of Guangzhou have been refused permission to hold Easter services, and Christians in the northern city of Hohhot are facing repression.
"There is a very large house church in Hohhot. They were also under crackdown. More than a dozen of the leaders are now under criminal detention," said Mr Fu, who is a critic of Beijing's religious policies.
The authorities have not yet commented on the latest detentions.


People have been warned about the dangers of buying cheap meat from unregistered butchers after 15 cows were stolen in Cambridgeshire.

The Hereford and Limousin-cross cattle, worth about £15,000, were taken from a farmer's field in Cambridge Road, Stretham on 6 December.
Cambridgeshire Police warned that cheap beef from an unusual source "may also carry health risks".
It was "an unusual crime for the area," a spokesman said.
The loss of the cattle has had "a massive effect on the victim and their livelihood", he added.


Hungarian prosecutors have charged a 98-year-old man, Laszlo Csatary, with participation in Nazi war crimes.

He is under arrest in Hungary, accused of assisting in the murder of 15,700 Jews during World War II. He denies the allegations.
In 1944 he was serving in the Nazi police in Kosice, now in Slovakia.
The Nazi-hunting Simon Wiesenthal Center says Mr Csatary oversaw deportations of Jews to the Auschwitz death camp.
The indictment accuses Mr Csatary of torturing and murdering Jews - partly as a culprit, partly as an accomplice.
It says he was the chief of an internment camp for Jews in Kosice, and that he beat them with his bare hands and a dog whip.
"With his actions, Laszlo Csatary... deliberately provided help to the unlawful executions and torture committed against Jews deported to concentration camps... from Kosice," the prosecutors' statement said.
His trial is expected to start within three months.
Mr Csatary insists that he was merely an intermediary between Hungarian and German officials in Kosice and that he was not involved in war crimes.
Kosice - called Kassa at the time - was the site of the first Jewish ghetto established on Hungarian territory, following the German occupation of the country in 1944.
In 1948, a Czechoslovakian court condemned Mr Csatary to death, in absentia, for torturing Jews.
Mr Csatary fled to Canada after the war, where he worked as an art dealer in Montreal and Toronto. He disappeared in 1997 after being stripped of his Canadian citizenship.
He was in 2012 named by the Simon Wiesenthal Center as its most wanted suspect.
He was tracked down in Budapest by reporters from the UK's Sun newspaper in July 2012, with help from the Simon Wiesenthal Center.
He was put under house arrest.
He has also been charged in Slovakia.


Portadown's Colin Turkington secured two fourth-place finishes in the ninth round of the British Touring Car Championship at Silverstone on Sunday.

Starting from the back of the grid, Turkington made his way through the field to finish eighth in race one.
The 34-year-old improved by four places in the next two outings and lies seventh in the series on 241 points.
His strong performance means the Subaru driver has an outside chance of winning the title at the final round.
After being penalised at the previous round, Turkington was made to start at the back of the 31-car grid for the three races at Silverstone.
However, the 2014 champion cut his way through the field, picking rivals off one by one, as he took the chequered flag in 10th position.
He was promoted to eighth after MG drivers Ash Sutton and Josh Cook, who finished in first and second, were excluded for a technical infringement.
Turkington battled hard with team-mate Jason Plato in the second race, finishing just outside the podium places.
The Northern Irishman grabbed his second fourth place finish in the final race of the day as he nipped past a struggling Plato on the final corner to head to Brands Hatch 37 points behind leader Sam Tordoff.
There was joy for Charlie Eastwood in the Porsche Carerra Cup, as the Belfast driver claimed the rookie title and the £50,000 prize fund that accompanies it after he climbed from 11th to third.
Eastwood is now third in the overall standings, with English driver Dan Cammish sealing the overall championship with two races to spare.
Chris Smiley and Dan Harper had difficult weekends in their respective Renault Clio and Ginetta Juniors series, with both drivers finishing mid-pack.


Cyber criminals have been targeting major law firms in what may have been an attempt to gather data for insider trading deals, according to reports.

The Wall Street Journal said that a number of US companies had had their computer systems compromised.
The FBI would not confirm whether or not an insider trading investigation was under way.
Earlier in the year, security company Flashpoint had warned some firms that hackers were targeting legal offices.
A spokeswoman for Flashpoint was not able to comment in detail on the alert sent to law firms, but told the BBC: "All the details surrounding any activity have been turned over to the authorities and they are handling the situation from there."
Law firm Cravath Swaine & Moore LLP confirmed to the BBC that it suffered a "limited breach" last summer.
"We are not aware that any of the information that may have been accessed has been used improperly," the statement said.
The rising threat of hacking has been noticed by many in the legal industry.
Recently, attempts to compromise the security of law firms' computer networks have been detected by clients of London law office CMS, which brokers cybersecurity insurance policies for a range of companies.
"We've seen examples of emails [at client law firms] that purport to come from a managing partner to a more junior lawyer directing them to make payments to an account or to send certain information to an address," Stephen Tester, a partner at CMS, told the BBC.
"They can look very much like a regular message."
Law firms had even reported breaches of their video-conferencing systems, commented Mr Tester.
"There are ways in which people can go into video-based conferencing facilities and literally listen in on meetings," he said.
He added that while the issue was a growing concern for all businesses, he felt law companies were in a special position because of the sensitivity of the data they held.
Last year, a ring of alleged insider trading hackers was apprehended after they were accused of netting more than $100m (Â£70m) in illegal profits.
The group was accused of stealing sensitive financial information from wire news services before it had been published.


BBC Sport's football expert Mark Lawrenson is pitting his wits against a different guest each week this season.

Lawro's opponent for this weekend's FA Cup fifth-round ties is BBC Breakfast presenter Bill Turnbull.
Turnbull, who is stepping down from his role at the end of this month, has been a Wycombe Wanderers fan since their remarkable run to the FA Cup semi-finals as a third-tier team in 2001.
"I started going with my two sons towards the end of that run and we went up to Villa Park for the semi-final against Liverpool," Turnbull told BBC Sport.
"That was us tied in then. We were glory-hunters in effect - but we have been waiting for the glory to come around ever since."
Turnbull is not predicting any shocks this weekend but thinks League One strugglers Shrewsbury will do the lower leagues proud when they host Manchester United on Sunday.
"I think United will be in for a bit of a surprise there," Turnbull explained. "They might slip up a little."
Football Focus presenter Dan Walker will be stepping into Bill's shoes on BBC Breakfast.
You can see Dan and Lawro on Focus, live from Vicarage Road, on Saturday at 12:10 GMT on BBC One and the BBC Sport website.
* Away team to win at home in the replay
Our scoring system has changed this season and a correct result (picking a win, draw or defeat) is now worth 10 points. The exact score earns 40 points.
Last weekend, Lawro got three correct results from 10 Premier League matches, with no perfect scores.
His score of 30 points saw him beat Deadpool actor Ed Skrein, who picked six correct results but no perfect scores for a total of 60.
All kick-offs 15:00 GMT unless otherwise stated
This is the third year in a row that Arsenal have played Hull in the FA Cup, and a repeat of the 2014 final, and I think it will also be the third year in a row that the Gunners end up on top.
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It is an attractive tie for Hull, but they are top of the Championship and promotion is their priority - they can see the pot of gold.
So I am not sure what kind of team Tigers boss Steve Bruce will pick, because he will not want a replay.
We saw the quality of Arsenal's squad with Theo Walcott and Danny Welbeck both coming off the bench and scoring important goals against Leicester.
I don't see the manner of that win as being a turning point in the season because I was backing Arsene Wenger's side to win the title anyway, but it will definitely boost their belief that they can do it.
Lawro's prediction: 2-0
Bill's prediction: Arsenal are at home and flying high in the Premier League. They will keep their cup defence going too. 2-0
Match preview
Reading are not going to get promoted out of the Championship and, despite only one win in their last nine league games, they do not look like they will get relegated either.
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West Brom ended their own poor run with a battling win against Everton at Goodison Park last weekend.
I am sure Baggies boss Tony Pulis will juggle his squad to some extent but I don't think a cup run will damage their survival prospects, because I don't think they are going down anyway.
Lawro's prediction: 1-2
Bill's prediction: This is a tricky one for the Baggies. 1-1 (West Brom to win the replay)
Watford got a really good win at Crystal Palace last time out and their form has really picked up again since they lost four in a row at the turn of the year.
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Leeds are doing OK in the Championship, but again are nowhere near promotion.
They seem to be bringing some good young players through but they are selling them on. That is great for their bank balance, but it is not going to get the club back in the top flight.
There will be a lot of Leeds fans at Vicarage Road and there should be a great atmosphere, but I am backing the Hornets to go through.
Lawro's prediction: 2-0
Bill's prediction: This one looks fairly straightforward for Watford. 2-1
Both teams lost at home in the Premier League last weekend, with Everton edged out by West Brom and Bournemouth being completely unhinged by Stoke.
I'm going to go for a result which I think neither side will want, which is a draw and a replay.
Lawro's prediction: 1-1
Bill's prediction: Everton will squeak it. 0-1
I think everyone has realised that West Ham are a very good team - now they just have to keep going.
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The Hammers also have an outstanding individual player in Dimitri Payet but, even when he is out, they are still a decent side.
They have also come back late in a few games which shows they have resolve to go with that quality.
I will be at Ewood Park to watch this one - Blackburn ended a nine-game wait for a Championship win when they beat Fulham on Tuesday, but I don't see them getting another win this weekend.
Lawro's prediction: 1-2
Bill's prediction: West Ham are playing very well at the moment. 0-2
Palace still cannot buy a Premier League win. They have gone nine matches without a victory in the league and they can barely manage a goal - they have only found the net four times in those games.
Tottenham looked impressive in their win over Manchester City last weekend and I don't think their trip to Italy to play Fiorentina in the Europa League will bother them.
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Spurs boss Mauricio Pochettino has shown with their results already this season that he has a squad that can cope with European competition without affecting domestic form, and I am backing them to get another win on Sunday.
Pochettino's side do not create loads and load of chances but they are very hard working and, even with Jan Vertonghen out, they are still very difficult to break down.
Lawro's prediction: 2-0
Bill's prediction: I saw Tottenham's win over City and they were absolutely fantastic. 2-0
I was in Paris to watch Chelsea play Paris St-Germain in the Champions League on Tuesday and they played pretty well despite losing the first leg of their last-16 tie.
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Chelsea boss Guus Hiddink might be missing one or two players through injury, but it looks like Manchester City might be missing more for other reasons.
We are not sure what sort of team their manager Manuel Pellegrini will put out because of how close this game is to their trip to play Dynamo Kiev in the Champions League on Wednesday night.
Pellegrini says he may field a weakened team at Stamford Bridge. If he does, it will be a shame because it is not great for the FA Cup, but you can understand why.
Lawro's prediction: 2-1
Bill's prediction: Chelsea are still unbeaten domestically in 11 games under Guus Hiddink but City have lost their last two games and I don't see them losing three in a row. 0-1
This tie is all about the romance of the FA Cup and it will be a great night for Shrewsbury and their fans, whatever the result.
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Regardless of the team that Manchester United boss Louis van Gaal puts out, they will be too strong for League One opposition.
The FA Cup has been in the news this week with the talk that replays that could be abolished.
It is not surprising that Shrews boss Micky Mellon spoke out against that suggestion because, as he said, a replay at a place like Old Trafford is a financial lifeline for clubs like his.
Maybe, if we do get a scenario where there are no longer replays, when the draw comes out the smaller team gets the choice whether to host the match.
If they do, they have a greater chance of an upset, or they can choose to go to the bigger club's stadium and get a guaranteed windfall instead.
Lawro's prediction: 0-2
Bill's prediction: I have got to go with the lower league club to get something here. 1-1 (Man Utd to win the replay)
Lawro was speaking to BBC Sport's Chris Bevan.
Lawro's best score: 160 points (week 19 v Guy Mowbray)
Lawro's worst score: 20 points (week one v Graeme Swann & week 23 v Ice Cube and Kevin Hart)


This Friday marks the 100th anniversary of one of the deadliest battles in World War One.

28 June 2016 Last updated at 08:03 BST
On 1 July 1916, British soldiers started fighting in the Battle of the Somme.
The people in charge said that the battle had to happen to win the war.
But by the time it was over, more than a million soldiers on both sides had died or were injured.
Even now people can't agree on whether it was the right decision or a huge mistake.
Martin has been to the trenches in northern France to find out what happened.


Ofgem has ordered "Big Six" energy supplier E.On to pay £7m for failing to supply its business customers with energy-efficient smart meters.

The energy regulator found E.On supplied smart meters to fewer than 65% of eligible electricity business customers by an April 2014 deadline.
E.On has agreed to pay £7m to the Carbon Trust for missing the deadline.
It now has a year to meet a new interim target and could pay a further £7m if it fails to do so.
Ofgem warned that if E.On failed to meet its new deadline, it would consider imposing a sales ban preventing E.On from taking on new business customers until it was able to supply them through a smart meter.
Ofgem is also investigating the rollout performance of British Gas and Npower.
The government gave energy suppliers five years from 2009 to supply smart meters - which monitor electricity and gas consumption more efficiently - to their business customers.
Under the scheme, E.On was required to supply its 20,000 business electricity customers with smart meters, But it supplied just under 65%, or 13,000, of those customers, with the new meters.
The government also expects energy suppliers to fit more than 26 million households across England, Wales and Scotland with smart meters by 2020.
Anthony Pygram, Ofgem's senior enforcement partner, said: "It's unacceptable that E.On failed to roll out advanced meters to these business customers on time.
"Customers have lost out on receiving better information about their energy consumption and the opportunity to control costs.
"Unless E.On improves their poor record, they will have to pay out even more and may face a sales ban."
A spokesman for E.On said: "Installing advanced meters to tens of thousands of business customers across the country was always going to be a significant challenge and one that threw up a variety of hurdles for suppliers to overcome.
"That said, we cannot, and will not, overlook the fact that we did not do enough in time to meet the deadline and in that regard failed to provide the efficient service our business customers demand and deserve."


Aberdeen's controversial City Garden Project has been narrowly rejected after a council debate.

The vital vote focused on the proposed £140m plan - backed by £50m from businessman Sir Ian Wood - to transform the historic Union Terrace Gardens.
In a referendum earlier this year, there were 45,301 votes in favour with 41,175 votes against.
New proposals from the Independent Alliance Group were backed by 22, with 20 against and one abstention.
Improvements to Union Terrace Gardens, and landmark buildings, are instead proposed.
There were heated exchanged afterwards between some business leaders who supported the City Garden Project and councillors who voted against it.
Sir Ian's £50m offer has now been withdrawn. He said he was dismayed.
Callum McCaig, leader of SNP group, had called for the City Garden Project to be backed.
He said he was "bitterly disappointed" at the decision.
Conservative Alan Donnelly said the amendment was an "almighty fudge".
However, Mike Shepherd, chairman of Friends of Union Terrace Gardens, said: "There is no doubt that our councillors made the correct decision.
"This is the end of the City Garden Project debacle.
"Union Terrace Gardens is at the heart of our city. Let's nurture them with the care and attention they deserve. We can restore them to a place of pride and glory. Let's go ahead and do it."
The abstention was from Liberal Democrat Ian Yuill.
Various delegations had addressed the full meeting of Aberdeen City Council during the day.
One of the first to speak among earlier delegations was Leo Koot, managing director of oil firm TAQA Bratani, who said Union Terrace Gardens was a "dark hole".
However, that claim was contested by Iain Richardson, from Common Good Aberdeen.
Prominent Aberdeen hotelier Stewart Spence said the city needed to attract tourists, and required more than a spruce up.
Dan McCroskrie, speaking on behalf of the young people who support the scheme, said it was a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity which would help attract more young people into the city.
The cost of the winning Granite Web design was £140m.
The council administration's senior coalition partner, Labour, had vowed to scrap the scheme.


Safety guidelines have been issued following the death of a sheep farmer from the Borders.

Jim Sharp, 66, suffered multiple injuries in an accident at Newbigging Walls farm, near Lauder, in March.
A fatal accident inquiry heard that his shoe lace became entangled in a rotating blade inside a grain silo.
NFU Scotland and the Health and Safety Executive have reminded farmers to use the safe stop procedure when working with any agricultural machinery.
The guidelines include:
They added that farmers should never enter a grain silo when the auger is running as several accidents have been caused when someone has become entangled in the sweep auger by a boot lace or clothing.
In addition, farmers were urged not to enter grain silos to clear blockages of any kind unless the power is isolated and there is no chance of bridging in the grain.
HSE inspector Hazel Dobb said: "The tragic death of Mr Sharp has once again brought home the dangers involved in the farming industry, particularly when working with agricultural machinery."
Mr Sharp was a former livestock convener of NFU Scotland and a prominent breeder of Blackface sheep.
NFU Scotland vice president Allan Bowie added: "Farming remains one of the most hazardous industries to work in and the loss of an important industry figure like Mr Sharp simply strengthens the union's resolve and commitment to work with others to improve our sector's health and safety record."


Sunderland have rejected West Ham's £6m bid for striker Jermain Defoe.

It is understood the Hammers will raise their offer for the player who began his career at the east London club.
Defoe, 34, has scored 11 goals in 21 appearances for the Premier League strugglers this season.
His latest goals came on Monday as Sunderland twice fought from a goal down to draw 2-2 with in-form Liverpool, which left manager David Moyes's side in 18th position.
Defoe's senior career began at West Ham before he moved to rivals Tottenham in a £7m deal in 2004, with striker Bobby Zamora going the other way. A £7.5m move to Portsmouth followed in January 2008 before he returned to Spurs the following year for £15m.
Defoe made a surprise move to Canadian team Toronto FC in 2014 before he was  lured to Sunderland in 2015 by former Black Cats boss and ex-Spurs team-mate Gus Poyet.
BBC Radio 5 live's chief football correspondent Ian Dennis
West Ham will return to test the resolve of Sunderland, but it's unthinkable the Black Cats can afford to sell Defoe given their precarious position.
David Moyes recently described Defoe as "priceless" and his goals will be the difference as to whether they can preserve their top-flight status.
Premium and proven goalscorers are in short supply which is why West Ham themselves are looking at the 34-year-old.
They say money talks but Defoe is invaluable to Sunderland's cause.


US presidential candidate Donald Trump has apologised for obscene comments about women he made in a newly released videotape from 2005.

Mr Trump said that "these words don't reflect who I am... I apologise".
In the video, Mr Trump says "you can do anything" to women "when you're a star" and brags about trying to grope and kiss women.
Top Republicans condemned the comments. His election rival Hillary Clinton called them "horrific".
"We cannot allow this man to become president," she posted on Twitter.
In the video, Mr Trump is heard saying, "Grab them by the pussy. You can do anything."
"Certainly has been an interesting 24 hours!" Mr Trump wrote on Twitter on Saturday.
Mr Trump's 2005 comments overshadowed the release of transcripts of Mrs Clinton's speeches to private events, by the whistle-blowing site Wikileaks.
In the video, posted by the Washington Post, Mr Trump is heard bragging to TV host Billy Bush about trying to have sex with a married woman as well as kissing and groping others.
The clip was part of unaired footage of an Access Hollywood segment ahead of Mr Trump's appearance on the soap opera Days of Our Lives.
"I moved on her and I failed. I'll admit it," Mr Trump is heard saying. "She was married. And I moved on her very heavily.
"I moved on her like a bitch, but I couldn't get there. And she was married. Then all of a sudden I see her, she's now got the big phony tits and everything. She's totally changed her look."
Later in the conversation, he told Mr Bush he was "automatically attracted to beautiful" women and often tried to kiss them.
"I just start kissing them," he said. "I don't even wait. And when you're a star, they let you do it. You can do anything."
Mr Trump's 90-second statement on Saturday morning appeared to be his first full apology in a campaign laced with controversial remarks.
"I've said and done things I regret," he said. "Anyone who knows me knows these words don't reflect who I am. I said it, I was wrong, and I apologise.
"I've never said I'm a perfect person nor pretended to be someone I'm not. I pledge to be a better man tomorrow."
However, he also tried to deflect the impact by attacking former President Bill Clinton.
"Bill Clinton has actually abused women, and Hillary has bullied, attacked and shamed his victims.
"We'll discuss this in the coming days," he said. "See you at the debate on Sunday."
The second TV debate between Mr Trump and Mrs Clinton will take place on Sunday evening in St Louis.
Mr Trump recently said he would not bring up stories about Bill Clinton's infidelities in the debate, after previously threatening to do so.
The latest opinion polls suggest Mrs Clinton is pulling ahead. Mr Trump will need a good performance at the debate to slow the trend.
Mr Trump has said the latest remarks are "nothing more than a distraction" and "locker-room banter".
Top Republicans have been incensed.
House Speaker Paul Ryan said he was "sickened by what I heard today" and rescinded his invitation to Mr Trump to attend the Republican Fall Fest in his home state of Wisconsin this weekend.
Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell said the comments were "repugnant," adding that Mr Trump "needs to apologise directly to women and girls everywhere".
Another senior Republican, John McCain, said there were "no excuses for Donald Trump's offensive and demeaning comments".
For his part, Billy Bush said he was "embarrassed" by and "ashamed" of the contents of the video.
"It's no excuse, but this happened 11 years ago. I was younger, less mature, and acted foolishly in playing along. I'm very sorry."
The TV host is the first cousin of former President George W Bush.
Mrs Clinton's campaign released a video featuring the audio, playing over footage of women and girls.
The day after a video emerged in which he suggested he could have any woman he wants because he's a star and so could just grab them by the pussy, Mr Trump is in a whole ocean of hot political water.
Enough, quite possibly, to sink any chance he had of winning the White House.
There is a violence in the phrases "grab 'em by the pussy" and "you can do anything" that any victim of abuse would recognise and that most women would find sickening.
But this tape doesn't just offend women, judging from the reaction in the Republican party. It has offended a lot of men too. Whether those men will now withdraw their endorsements of him is yet to be seen.
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Chelsea boss Antonio Conte says he is "not worried" by the club's relative lack of signings this summer.

The Blues have signed four players for a combined £129m, but have seen a greater number leave, including John Terry and Nemanja Matic.
Their Premier League title defence began with a shock 3-2 home defeat by Burnley on Saturday, during which Gary Cahill and Cesc Fabregas were sent off.
"The club are trying to do their best," said the Italian.
"I am not worried, I am ready to fight with these players.
"I repeat: It is important for us to concentrate on our work, to be focused every day in training and to try to work in our best way. No excuses."
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As well as defender Terry and midfielder Matic, Chelsea have sold Asmir Begovic to Bournemouth, while last season's top scorer Diego Costa has been told he is free to leave.
The recruitment of midfielder Tiemoue Bakayoko from Monaco, striker Alvaro Morata from Real Madrid, defender Antonio Rudiger from Roma and former Manchester City keeper Willy Caballero fills the gaps vacated by this quartet.
But Conte has made no secret of his desire to recruit more players to strengthen his first team for a season that sees the addition of Champions League matches to their fixture list.
Having also sold Nathan Ake to Bournemouth and loaned fellow defender Kurt Zouma to Stoke, the suspension of Cahill will further deplete Conte's resources.
Equally, Fabregas' ban deprives him of another midfielder, with Bakayoko, Hazard and Pedro all out injured.
Conte felt Cahill's dismissal was pivotal to the outcome of Saturday's game against Burnley, with Chelsea 3-0 down at the break following two goals from Sam Vokes and a Stephen Ward strike.
A debut goal from substitute Morata and a late David Luiz finish gave them hope, but Burnley held on for the win.
"The red card [for Cahill] was the key moment," Conte told BBC Sport. "We started well with good intensity and were dominating the game. Then the game changed. We lost our heads too easily and we need to reflect on this situation.
"If we are able to stay in the game, then anything can happen in the second half, but instead we conceded three goals. In the second half, my players showed great will to try to change the result."


Three Devon wild swimmers say they have become "urban guerrillas" - by swimming near Paris's Eiffel Tower.

They were among 5,000 people due to take part in a swim in the River Seine, but it was cancelled amid fears about the water quality.
Instead, Matt Newbury, La La Mahakama and Queenie Martin chose the Trocadero Fountains as a substitute.
Dressed in union jack swimming caps, the trio's "impromptu water ballet" amused hundreds of spectators.
"We were gutted when the Seine swim was cancelled at short notice - the authorities in Paris said they were worried about the water quality," Mr Newbury said.
"We decided we'd go ahead and I came up with the idea of the Trocadero Fountains in front of the Eiffel Tower.
Mr Newbury, a 42-year-old press officer from Torquay, said having taken the decision, the trio "staked out" the venue before taking the plunge.
"We obviously didn't ask permission, so I guess you could say we were urban guerrillas," he said.
Mr Newbury, who describes wild swimming as "anywhere that isn't a swimming pool", said the fountain swim had been a wonderful experience.
He is a member of the Devon and Cornwall Wild Swimming Association - a network of swimmers who enjoy swimming outdoors in rivers, waterfalls, caves, lakes and the sea.
The video evidence of the swim in Paris was filmed and edited by Mr Newbury's partner Aaron Kitts.


A jury has heard that Craig Whyte would just laugh when his company's lawyer advised him not to buy Rangers.

Giving evidence to Mr Whyte's fraud trial at the High Court in Glasgow, Gary Withey said he thought the businessman was "mad" to be trying to take over the football club.
The lawyer also said he thought Mr Whyte did not know what he was getting himself into.
Mr Whyte denies a charge of acquiring Rangers by fraud in May 2011.
He also denies a second charge under the Companies Act.
Mr Withey, a corporate lawyer who had worked for English firm Collyer Bristow, was instructed in the Ranger takeover talks after meeting Mr Whyte in mid-2010.
Giving evidence for a fourth day, Mr Withey told the court he had repeatedly told Mr Whyte not to proceed with the deal to buy the football club because he claimed: "I didn't like the feel of the transaction."
When asked by advocate depute Alex Prentice QC why he didn't like it, he replied: "I felt as though there were too many things to be discovered.
"It was also information was having to be pulled out."
Mr Prentice asked what the purpose of him giving Mr Whyte advice was and he said: "It was my opinion at the time".
Mr Withey was asked: "What was his response every time you raised this?"
The witness replied: "He would laugh."
The prosecutor asked Mr Withey how he responded to that and he said: "He's the client."
Jurors heard Mr Withey was "concerned" that the Murray group would not go through with the takeover if they knew how it would be funded.
Asked why, the witness said: "Because they probably wouldn't have liked the thought of him using Ticketus."
He told the court that the proposal was "not concealed but it wasn't revealed".
Mr Withey said they were instructed by Mr Whyte not to reveal it. He also said that if the takeover panel required the information it "had to be shown".
The witness claimed Mr Whyte said it was thought the Rangers owners, the Murray group, would walk away if they knew.
The court later heard from private investor Ross Bryan who was an investment manager with Octopus Capital between 2009 and 2012.
He explained Octopus was an umbrella company that invests money for clients and Ticketus was one of the investment products.
Ticketus bought tickets for events at a reduced rate and appointed another company to sell them on.
Mr Bryan said it was common with football tickets to pass them back to the clubs to sell them.
He identified Mr Whyte in the dock and said he met him in September or October 2010 after being contacted by a broker who said the businessman "might want to acquire Glasgow Rangers".
Mr Prentice QC, prosecuting, asked: "Prior to that conversation were you aware of the possibility of Rangers being for sale?"
Mr Bryan said he only heard of previous bids he had read in newspapers.
Asked what was discussed at the meeting with Mr Whyte he said: "In very broad terms, Mr Whyte explained that he was from this neck of the woods, a fan of the club and would be interested in making an offer to the owner to see if they would sell."
He said he explained the Ticketus procedure and said the discussion was "specific to Rangers and acquisition of the club".
Mr Bryan was asked if he was aware that at the time Sir David Murray owned the majority of shares in Rangers.
He told the court that after Christmas when the deal had not closed, the firm were "keen" to make sure Sir David knew they were involved or that a financial institution was involved.
Prosecutors allege Mr Whyte pretended to Sir David Murray, and others, that funds were available to make all required payments to acquire a "controlling and majority stake" in the club.
The Crown alleges Mr Whyte had only £4m available from two sources at the time but took out a £24m loan from Ticketus against three years of future season ticket sales.
The court has heard the sale was eventually made to Mr Whyte for £1 but came with obligations to pay an £18m bank debt, a £2.8m "small tax case" bill, £1.7m for stadium repairs, £5m for players and £5m in working capital.
The second charge under the Companies Act centres on the £18m payment between Mr Whyte's Wavetower company and Rangers to clear a bank debt.
The trial before eight men and seven women continues.


The Pentagon has released home videos of Osama Bin Laden, seized at the secret Pakistani compound where he was shot dead by US commandos.

The tapes show him watching himself on television, and preparing a video message addressed to the US.
At a news briefing in Washington, intelligence officials said Bin Laden had been actively leading al-Qaeda from the compound in Abbottabad.
Five videos seized during Monday's raid have been released.
In the first video, Bin Laden is shown wearing a white skullcap and shirt and a golden robe. He speaks to the camera in the style of previous video addresses by the al-Qaeda leader.
By Frank GardnerBBC security correspondent
Of the five clips released by the Pentagon, and said by them to have been seized from Bin Laden's compound in Abbottabad, only one is truly remarkable. It appears to show an aged and frail Bin Laden squatting on the floor of a very basic room with jerry-rigged electrical wiring, watching television.
There is nothing glamorous about his surroundings, which resemble an urban squat. Yet a senior but unnamed US intelligence official has told journalists in Washington they now believe the compound raided by US Navy Seals last Monday was an al-Qaeda command and control centre.
If they're right then the idea of Bin Laden being too busy evading capture to get involved in operations all this time will turn out to be badly wrong.
But Noman Benotman, who knew Bin Laden personally up til 2000, tells me this is wrong, that Bin Laden was a spiritual leader but in no way a military commander.
Pentagon officials have removed audio from the film, citing security concerns, but said it was a message to the United States.
Three other clips appear to be rehearsals for the video message, says the BBC's Jonny Dymond in Washington.
It is the first such film to emerge since al-Qaeda released a video address from Bin Laden in 2007, says our correspondent.
In another of the videos, Bin Laden is shown watching a programme about himself on Arabic language television.
He is shown sitting on the floor wrapped in what looks like a blanket or a coat, holding a remote control.
As he watches TV he strokes his beard, which appears much greyer than in the other videos.
In one scene, he watches a programme showing an image of himself superimposed on a picture of the World Trade Center in flames after it was hit by hijacked planes.
There is nothing in the videos to place Bin Laden in the compound where he was killed.
But the clips' release is part of an ongoing effort by the US administration to convince doubters that Osama Bin Laden was killed in last Monday's raid, says our correspondent.
The US raid yielded the "single largest collection of senior terrorist materials ever," a senior US defence official said on Saturday.
Officials are examining computers, DVDs, hard drives and documents seized from the Abbottabad home where Bin Laden may have hidden for up to six years.
A senior intelligence official told reporters at the Pentagon that Bin Laden had remained a key player in al-Qaeda, overseeing strategy and operations from his Abbottabad home.
"He was far from a figurehead, he was an active player," the official said.
Meanwhile, Bin Laden's Yemeni wife has said that he had recovered from his widely publicised kidney problems, Pakistani officials who are questioning her told the BBC.
Twenty-nine-year-old Amal Ahmed Abdulfattah - who was shot in the leg during the US Navy Seals raid - said her husband had been "in perfect health", according to a senior Pakistani official.
He also told the BBC that they had not received any request from Washington to extradite her to the US.
The official also denied Pakistani media reports that Bin Laden's Yemeni wife had told them the al-Qaeda chief lived in a village near Abbottabad, before moving to the compound where he died.
Three men and a woman were killed alongside Bin Laden, including one of his sons, in the American operation, say US officials.
Pakistani officials have said that three of Bin Laden's wives and 13 children were removed from the house.


(Close): US stocks ended mixed on Tuesday after recording hefty losses in the previous session.

After dropping by nearly 2% on Monday, the Dow Jones rose 0.3% to 16,049.13 points.
The S&P 500 closed up 0.12% at  1,884.09., while the Nasdaq index lost 0.59% to 4,517.32 points. Apple fell 3% despite reporting record first weekend sales of its latest iPhones.
Yahoo rose 2.4% after agreeing on Monday to spin off Alibaba stake.
Stocks had been hit heavily on Monday as more weak economic data from China weighed on commodity prices.
Key US jobs data will be released on Friday, and investors are scrutinising all economic figures for clues as to the strength of the US economy.
The latest survey of the US housing market indicated that prices are continuing to rise.
The S&P/Case Shiller composite index of 20 metropolitan areas found that house prices in July were up 5% from a year earlier.
In a statement, David Blitzer, chairman of the index committee at S&P Dow Jones Indices, said: "Prices of existing homes and housing overall are seeing strong growth and contributing to recent solid growth for the economy."


European Union foreign ministers have said they expect a "very strong partnership" with the US, following an informal meeting to discuss Donald Trump's election victory.

The ministers said they needed to know details of the US president-elect's plans but said they expected good ties.
The talks took place at a dinner in Brussels on Sunday, on the eve of a formal meeting of foreign ministers.
Ministers from Britain, France and Hungary did not attend on Sunday.
"We are looking forward to a very strong partnership with the next [US] administration," EU foreign policy chief Federica Mogherini said.
"We have decided together to engage with the incoming administration even from this very first week of transition," she added.
Belgian Foreign Minister Didier Reynders told reporters: "Whatever the US administration, it has long been known that Europe will have to step up its action on security and defence."
During the campaign, Mr Trump suggested that the US may not automatically come to the aid of a Nato ally under attack.
Monday's formal meeting, which is being attended by ministers from all 28 member states, is due to discuss relations with Turkey and defence co-operation with Nato.
Mr Trump's election win has exposed rifts in Europe with some officials distancing themselves from discussions on future relations.
UK Foreign Secretary Boris Johnson said on Friday that it was "time we snapped out of the general doom and gloom" over the US result, referring to negative comments as a "collective whinge-o-rama".
Hungarian Foreign Minister Peter Szijjarto said Sunday's meeting was "completely premature" and hit out at "frustrated and hysterical statements" made by other European leaders following the US election result.
The statement from the ministers contrasts sharply with comments by European Commission President Jean-Claude Juncker, who warned on Friday that Mr Trump's election risked upsetting EU ties with the US "fundamentally and structurally".


About 800 students are still waiting for their degrees after a problem with a new IT system raised concerns over the accuracy of results.

Students at Blackburn College's University Centre were due to receive their results on 7 July following validation by Lancaster University.
Some of those have said the "systems issue" has put their careers on hold.
Staff at both centres are working "ensure the data is accurate", which could take at least another two weeks.
Student Karen McErlean said: "We've had no satisfactory answer as to why results are late.
"I'm supposed to be starting a teacher training in September but I can't commence with that until I've got my degree confirmed."
Blackburn College said it was carrying out data testing on the IT system, introduced four to five months ago, when issues around the results emerged.
An anomaly with the data had led Lancaster University to query the results from Blackburn College.
Vice Principal Tracey Stuart said it had come to light the week before the results were due to be released.
"It isn't anybody's fault," she said, adding results are be due to be sent to Lancaster University for validation within two weeks.
"It's disappointing, nobody regrets the delay more than I do. We must make sure the data is accurate and validated."
A date will be set for results to be released once the college's "internal systems issue is resolved" and Lancaster University is satisfied with the "accuracy of the results", Professor Mike Wright, a dean at Lancaster University, said.