Winger Matt Phillips punished a horrendous error by midfielder Danny Drinkwater to score the winner for West Brom at champions Leicester.

Two goals in three second-half minutes livened up what had been a dull encounter at the King Power Stadium.
The Baggies scored first when midfielder James Morrison, making his first league start since January, headed in from Phillips' brilliant right-wing cross.
We have to stay together as we did last season when everything was right
Moments later Riyad Mahrez, on Leicester's right, provided a similarly accurate delivery for £29m club-record signing Islam Slimani to nod in his fourth goal since joining the Foxes in the summer.
But with 18 minutes remaining Phillips pounced on the ball after Drinkwater miscontrolled, and strode forward before dinking his shot past keeper Ron-Robert Zieler.
At this stage last season, Claudio Ranieri's side had come away from The Hawthorns with a 3-2 win that lifted them to third in the table. Over the subsequent 27 matches they only dropped points in 10 en route to a stunning Premier League title success.
After 11 games this season, the Foxes have three wins and sit in 14th spot, only two points above the relegation zone.
On Sunday, they mustered only two efforts on target, one of which produced their goal.
One of the three main protagonists in Leicester's success last season who remain at the club, Mahrez, impressed against the Baggies. The other two - Jamie Vardy and Drinkwater - looked lacklustre.
Vardy came off the bench for the third time this season, and with the one chance he had he sent his eight-yard header wide. Drinkwater, Ranieri's dependable midfielder last campaign, produced a careless mistake for the West Brom winner. In total, the central midfielder lost possession 26 times, more than any player apart from the attacking Mahrez.
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With current Baggies top scorer Nacer Chadli missing through injury, summer signing Phillips stepped up as a more than able replacement.
Against Leicester he was outstanding. The 25-year-old provided a pinpoint cross for Morrison's headed goal and was alert to Drinkwater's error in the 74th minute, before applying a well-judged finish.
The former QPR man was the standout player on the pitch - he managed a goal, an assist, three shots and three key passes.
Leicester boss Claudio Ranieri: "We tried to do our match - the first half wasn't so good, the second was better.
"Today it wasn't so easy. Maybe we played too much in Champions League.
"We have to speak to find a solution together. I am unhappy because we lost our home record.
"We have to stay together as we did last season when everything was right."
West Brom manager Tony Pulis:  "Phillips should score a lot more goals. It is confidence that is the problem for him. He has the tools to be a very good player.
"He has got everything a top player needs - power and strength and quality on the ball. The big weakness is his belief; he should have no doubts at all.
"I have had a chat with the Chinese owners about bringing good players in over the next few windows. Chadli came in and has been first class - that is what the club have to do."
The Foxes are away at Watford on 19 November for a 15:00 GMT kick-off. Two days later West Brom are at home to Burnley for an 20:00 GMT start.
Match ends, Leicester City 1, West Bromwich Albion 2.
Second Half ends, Leicester City 1, West Bromwich Albion 2.
Foul by Leonardo Ulloa (Leicester City).
Hal Robson-Kanu (West Bromwich Albion) wins a free kick in the defensive half.
Substitution, West Bromwich Albion. Hal Robson-Kanu replaces James Morrison.
Chris Brunt (West Bromwich Albion) is shown the yellow card.
Offside, Leicester City. Daniel Drinkwater tries a through ball, but Leonardo Ulloa is caught offside.
Craig Gardner (West Bromwich Albion) is shown the yellow card for a bad foul.
Andy King (Leicester City) wins a free kick in the defensive half.
Foul by Craig Gardner (West Bromwich Albion).
Substitution, Leicester City. Leonardo Ulloa replaces Robert Huth.
Foul by Wes Morgan (Leicester City).
Salomón Rondón (West Bromwich Albion) wins a free kick in the attacking half.
Substitution, West Bromwich Albion. Craig Gardner replaces Matt Phillips.
Foul by Andy King (Leicester City).
Darren Fletcher (West Bromwich Albion) wins a free kick in the attacking half.
Corner,  Leicester City. Conceded by Claudio Yacob.
Attempt saved. Andy King (Leicester City) header from the centre of the box is saved in the top centre of the goal. Assisted by Riyad Mahrez.
Attempt missed. Andy King (Leicester City) right footed shot from outside the box is high and wide to the right. Assisted by Demarai Gray.
Attempt missed. Jamie Vardy (Leicester City) header from the centre of the box misses to the right. Assisted by Christian Fuchs with a cross.
Goal!  Leicester City 1, West Bromwich Albion 2. Matt Phillips (West Bromwich Albion) left footed shot from the centre of the box to the centre of the goal.
Attempt missed. Chris Brunt (West Bromwich Albion) left footed shot from outside the box is high and wide to the left. Assisted by Craig Dawson.
Corner,  West Bromwich Albion. Conceded by Ron-Robert Zieler.
Attempt saved. Craig Dawson (West Bromwich Albion) header from the right side of the six yard box is saved in the top right corner. Assisted by Matt Phillips with a cross.
Corner,  West Bromwich Albion. Conceded by Robert Huth.
Attempt blocked. Matt Phillips (West Bromwich Albion) right footed shot from outside the box is blocked. Assisted by James Morrison.
Substitution, Leicester City. Demarai Gray replaces Ahmed Musa.
Corner,  Leicester City. Conceded by Gareth McAuley.
Attempt missed. Daniel Drinkwater (Leicester City) right footed shot from outside the box is too high.
Foul by Robert Huth (Leicester City).
Gareth McAuley (West Bromwich Albion) wins a free kick in the defensive half.
Corner,  Leicester City. Conceded by Gareth McAuley.
Riyad Mahrez (Leicester City) wins a free kick in the defensive half.
Foul by Claudio Yacob (West Bromwich Albion).
Goal!  Leicester City 1, West Bromwich Albion 1. Islam Slimani (Leicester City) header from very close range to the bottom right corner. Assisted by Riyad Mahrez with a cross.
Andy King (Leicester City) wins a free kick in the defensive half.
Foul by Craig Dawson (West Bromwich Albion).
Corner,  West Bromwich Albion. Conceded by Danny Simpson.
Goal!  Leicester City 0, West Bromwich Albion 1. James Morrison (West Bromwich Albion) header from the centre of the box to the bottom left corner. Assisted by Matt Phillips with a cross.
Foul by Ahmed Musa (Leicester City).


Plaid Cymru has withdrawn the whip from its former leader, Lord Dafydd Elis-Thomas.

The AM for Dwyfor Meirionnydd said he had a "valid reason" for not attending the controversial vote of no-confidence over Wales' health minister Lesley Griffiths.
He criticised his party's stance, saying the debate "puts prejudice before evidence".
But a Plaid spokesman said there was no "satisfactory reason" for his absence.
The whip has temporarily been withdrawn.
Lord Elis-Thomas has given a brief statement to S4C's CF99 political programme.
"I will argue (in the disciplinary hearing) that I had a valid reason for my absence," he said.
Lord Elis-Thomas stayed away from Cardiff Bay to preside over a graduation ceremony at Bangor University, where he is chancellor.
A party spokesman said: "A member of the Plaid Cymru group in the National Assembly did not attend today's vote in the Assembly and did not provide a satisfactory reason for his absence.
"As a result, the whip has been temporarily withdrawn from Dafydd Elis-Thomas without prejudice pending an internal process."
Before the vote, Lord Elis-Thomas told BBC Wales that on the basis evidence he had seen he could see "no reason to pursue this vote of no confidence."
He added: "Plaid has put itself in a position of being the supporting cast to a play which was produced by the Welsh Conservatives, and that gets under my skin."
The Conservatives, Plaid Cymru and the Liberal Democrats supported a no-confidence motion on Wednesday at the last plenary session before the long summer recess.
Ms Griffiths survived the vote in a
           row about a controversial report into reorganising hospital services.
It was defeated 29 votes to 28.
As the assembly's 60 seats are evenly split between the government and the opposition, the motion would have needed a Labour rebellion to get it through the Senedd.
Lord Elis-Thomas was presiding officer of the Welsh assembly for 12 years.
He was Plaid leader between 1984 and 1991 and has been an assembly member since 1999, previously serving as an MP since 1974.
In January, the peer was nominated by his local party to run again for the leadership but came last in the first round of voting.


People in the Central African Republic have voted to elect a new president in a run-off contest between two former prime ministers.

Final results in the poll - seen as a step towards restoring peace - are not expected for several weeks.
The seizure of power by a mainly Muslim rebel group in 2013 led to prolonged bloodshed.
Candidates Faustin Touadera and Anicet Dologuele have pledged to restore security and boost the economy.
Both Mr Touadera, portrayed by supporters as a peacemaker who can bridge the Christian-Muslim divide, and Mr Dologuele, who has promised a break from the country's violent past, expressed hope for a high turnout.
Mr Dologuele even referenced St Valentine's Day as he exhorted citizens to vote "as an act of love for their country", Radio Centrafrique reported.
But a BBC correspondent in the region said there was less enthusiasm among voters than during the first round in December, although election officials said the voting had gone smoothly.
Prime Minister Mahamat Kamoun echoed this, telling Radio Centrafrique that he was "not entirely satisfied" with voter turnout.
Voters were also choosing a new parliament following the annulment of a poll in December due to irregularities.
Nearly 80% of the electorate voted in December's first round, which observers saw as a rejection of violence.
Communal reconciliation and reigniting the country's sluggish economy featured prominently as campaign themes.
CAR is one of the world's most unstable countries and was thrown into political chaos three years ago when mostly Muslim Seleka fighters toppled President Bozize.
Christian militias responded to Seleka abuses, with attacks carried out against the Muslim minority community.
After regional pressure, an interim administration took charge in January 2014 and later that year a 10,000-strong UN force took over the peacekeeping mission.
The north-east of the country is now mostly under the control of Muslim rebels while Christian militias hold sway the south-west.
Thousands died in the fighting and roughly a fifth of the population is thought to have been displaced.


Money worries are blamed as a key cause of suicidal feelings as the Samaritans in Wales report their highest number of calls for five years.

The charity said job security fears and benefit cuts pushed the number of people seeking help from its volunteers to more than 160,000 last year.
Text messages were up by 22% in 2013 with a 7% increase in emails answered.
Executive director for Wales Sarah Stone said the charity wanted to keep promoting the benefits of talking.
The call came as the Samaritans published its Impact Report for 2013/14, detailing the outreach work of the charity's nine branches in Wales.
Nearly 700 volunteers in Wales were involved a range of activities to tackle suicide, including:
"Against a backdrop of difficult economic times and where a disproportionate number of those who take their lives are struggling with social and economic deprivation, we need to convince people that talking about what's troubling them is valuable and potentially life-saving," said Ms Stone.
"It is something we all need to do and encourage other people to do."
She added: "The demand for our service is increasing. We took a call every three minutes last year in Wales.
"It is important that we keep working to raise awareness of our service and the benefits of talking."
While most help was given via phone, letter or face-to-face support, the Samaritans said contact via newer methods such as text and email was growing.
"We also need to keep evolving and finding new ways to reach out to people, continuing to be accessible to all who desperately need our service," said Ms Stone.
The Samaritans said the number of calls for help across the UK and Ireland also reached a five year high in 2013 of 5.23m.
Launching the report, Health Minister Mark Drakeford said: "I am grateful to Samaritans for its continued work in support of suicide prevention.
"It is a key partner and plays a vital role in delivering Talk to Me, the national action plan to reduce suicide and self-harm in Wales.
"We want people to feel able to support their friends, family members and colleagues who, for a variety of reasons, may be at risk of suicide.
"Ultimately, we as individuals, colleagues or friends, all have a responsibility to listen to and support those close to us."


Monthly debates on the big issues will be staged by BBC Wales from the autumn as it expands its political coverage.

The programmes, to be made by independent producer Avanti Media, will be shown in a primetime slot on TV.
Nick Andrews, head of BBC Wales commissioning, said: "We want to provide a truly national stage for a truly national debate,"
BBC Wales will also produce a new weekly current affairs series for BBC One Wales, replacing The Wales Report.
Avanti chief executive Emyr Afan said the company was "really excited" by the prospect of making the new debate programme.
"It will be the people's hour because the people of Wales lie at its core," he said.
"It's their programme - speaking to the issues at the heart of the nation's agenda."
The Wales Report, a weekly series made for BBC Wales by the independent company Wales & Co, will be replaced later this year by a new programme made by BBC Wales staff.
Delyth Isaac, editor of the BBC Wales political unit, said it would "explore stories that people really care about - from what's happening in our schools and hospitals to Brexit, jobs and the economy".
"These are big, important issues that matter to everyone whether they think they're into politics or not," she said.
"The show will go to the heart of the big stories and try to make sense of Wales in extraordinary times. We'll be scrutinising the powerful and giving people a voice."


Judy Murray knows a bit about how to succeed on a tennis court.

After all, her sons Andy and Jamie finished 2016 ranked number one in the world in singles and doubles respectively.
And she has long been an advocate for the women's game, both at the elite end - as Fed Cup captain until last year - and as a coach at grassroots level.
The latter is where she is currently focusing her attention, teaming up with the Lawn Tennis Association (LTA) to launch a coaching initiative called She Rallies, which kicks off in Birmingham from 3-5 February.
Put simply, the idea is to coach the next generation of female coaches, which will help raise standards of tennis provision across the country and attract and retain women and girls as active participants in the sport.
Currently, only 23% of qualified tennis coaches in the UK are women - an imbalance that Judy and the governing body are hoping to address by training regional "ambassadors" at the She Rallies weekend programme, which targets LTA-qualified coaches at L2 level and above.
"There is still a significant gap in terms of players and coaches at all levels of the women's game," says Judy. "This has to change. She Rallies will create opportunities in tennis for women and girls from the grassroots through to international level."
The ambassadors will provide free training and equipment to women from both tennis and non-tennis backgrounds within their regions, giving more girls the opportunity to play tennis locally.
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The weekend starts with a conference in central Birmingham on Friday, 3 February, featuring a range of speakers from sport and sport media, followed by two days of coaching activities.
Coaches will be mentored while hosting activities for girls from the local area - focusing on four areas of delivery: starter tennis for girls aged five to eight, tennis for teens, how to run girls' fun days and delivering recreational competitions.
Rob Dearing, head of participation at the LTA, is in no doubt that Judy's high profile and work ethic can help She Rallies succeed.
"We're committed to growing the game from grassroots up, and we know that women have a key role to play in helping us get there," he says.
"Judy's passion and unwavering determination for encouraging people to pick up a racquet and have a go is why she's the perfect person to drive this initiative forward and rally the female troops across the country."


Liverpool continued a stuttering start to their Europa League campaign as they drew with FC Sion at Anfield.

Adam Lallana gave the hosts a perfect start, scoring from close range after Divock Origi's cross despite appearing to be offside in the build-up.
The Swiss side drew level through Ebenezer Assifuah's cute finish.
Origi and Lallana were both denied by Sion goalkeeper Andris Vanins, as Liverpool recorded a second consecutive draw in Group B.
There was a smattering of boos at the final whistle after frustration mounted against a team who are mid-table in the Swiss Super League.
The Reds have scored more than one goal on only one occasion this term under Brendan Rodgers but, with two games against Russian side Rubin Kazan to come, the Liverpool boss will hope to achieve the victories they need to take charge of what appears to be a relatively easy group.
Playing in a 3-5-2 formation, Liverpool paid for their profligacy and with seven changes to the team after the Premier League win over Aston Villa last Saturday, there were times when Sion, led by the pace and strength of Assifuah, threatened Liverpool's back-line.
Rodgers stuck to his preferred policy of selecting fringe players and youngsters for the Europa League, with Sunday's Merseyside derby also influencing his thinking.
Daniel Sturridge was among those rested, allowing £10m Belgium international striker Origi the chance to make an impression. He set up Lallana's goal and although he was twice denied by the impressive Vanins, he showed signs he could be finding his feet after a hesitant start to his Anfield career, having been on loan at Lille last season.
Danny Ings partnered the 20-year-old up front and was effervescent on the day he received his first call-up to the England squad, while Lallana showed some nice touches and took his goal well.
Jordan Rossiter continued in midfield after playing in the opening group game in Bordeaux, and was steady alongside Joe Allen.
Liverpool created plenty of chances and, had Origi been more ruthless, they would have sealed a comfortable victory.
Other problems came in defence as Nathaniel Clyne and Jordan Ibe started at wing-back, with Joe Gomez, Kolo Toure and Emre Can making up a back three.
Clyne gave the ball away for the equaliser, with Xavier Kouassi finding Assifuah with a diagonal ball, which caught out Ibe on the left.
But Liverpool looked more solid when Clyne was replaced by Alberto Moreno at half-time, with Ibe switching to the right wing-back position.
The introduction of Philippe Coutinho after 61 minutes gave the hosts some extra guile up front, and although Liverpool are now five games unbeaten there is a still a feeling that without Sturridge and the injured Christian Benteke they are lacking firepower.
Liverpool boss Brendan Rodgers: "The result was disappointing considering the number of chances we created. We worked well and had a good start but gave away a disappointing goal. The players worked hard but we couldn't score the goals. You have to be clinical.
"We scored a good first goal. They weren't half chances, they were good chances and you have to score them at this level. We have to win a game like that."
Match ends, Liverpool 1, FC Sion 1.
Second Half ends, Liverpool 1, FC Sion 1.
Offside, Liverpool. Simon Mignolet tries a through ball, but Divock Origi is caught offside.
Foul by Alberto Moreno (Liverpool).
Edimilson Fernandes (FC Sion) wins a free kick on the right wing.
Substitution, FC Sion. Geoffrey Mujangi Bia replaces Moussa Konate.
Attempt blocked. Philippe Coutinho (Liverpool) right footed shot from the left side of the box is blocked. Assisted by Mamadou Sakho.
Attempt blocked. Joseph Gomez (Liverpool) right footed shot from outside the box is blocked. Assisted by Emre Can.
Substitution, FC Sion. Birama Ndoye replaces Ebenezer Assifuah.
Foul by Emre Can (Liverpool).
Moussa Konate (FC Sion) wins a free kick in the defensive half.
Alberto Moreno (Liverpool) wins a free kick on the left wing.
Foul by Ebenezer Assifuah (FC Sion).
Jordon Ibe (Liverpool) wins a free kick in the defensive half.
Foul by Edimilson Fernandes (FC Sion).
Delay over. They are ready to continue.
Delay in match Ebenezer Assifuah (FC Sion) because of an injury.
Alberto Moreno (Liverpool) is shown the yellow card for a bad foul.
Foul by Alberto Moreno (Liverpool).
Ebenezer Assifuah (FC Sion) wins a free kick on the right wing.
Offside, Liverpool. Philippe Coutinho tries a through ball, but Emre Can is caught offside.
Emre Can (Liverpool) wins a free kick on the right wing.
Foul by Carlitos (FC Sion).
Substitution, Liverpool. Mamadou Sakho replaces Kolo Touré.
Xavier Kouassi (FC Sion) is shown the yellow card for a bad foul.
Philippe Coutinho (Liverpool) wins a free kick on the left wing.
Foul by Xavier Kouassi (FC Sion).
Foul by Emre Can (Liverpool).
Carlitos (FC Sion) wins a free kick in the attacking half.
Attempt saved. Adam Lallana (Liverpool) left footed shot from the centre of the box is saved in the centre of the goal. Assisted by Alberto Moreno with a through ball.
Attempt saved. Carlitos (FC Sion) right footed shot from outside the box is saved in the centre of the goal. Assisted by Vero Salatic.
Attempt saved. Philippe Coutinho (Liverpool) right footed shot from outside the box is saved in the top left corner.
Emre Can (Liverpool) wins a free kick in the attacking half.
Foul by Edimilson Fernandes (FC Sion).
Foul by Emre Can (Liverpool).
Moussa Konate (FC Sion) wins a free kick on the left wing.
Attempt missed. Philippe Coutinho (Liverpool) right footed shot from outside the box misses to the right.
Attempt saved. Divock Origi (Liverpool) right footed shot from the centre of the box is saved in the bottom right corner. Assisted by Philippe Coutinho with a through ball.
Attempt saved. Ebenezer Assifuah (FC Sion) left footed shot from the centre of the box is saved in the centre of the goal. Assisted by Vero Salatic.
Foul by Joseph Gomez (Liverpool).


The Killers' frontman Brandon Flowers has won rave reviews for his new album - but he tells the BBC he's uncomfortable striking out on his own.

Brandon Flowers invites the BBC into his bedroom.
It's an unusual start to our interview - but a camera crew is setting up in the living room of his rented London apartment.
He checks his hair in the mirror ("a few grey hairs now") and settles on the edge of the pristine white bed to talk about his new record, The Desired Effect.
The singer has been in the limelight for more than a decade now, as the frontman of stadium rock superheroes The Killers.
But despite his onstage swagger, the 33-year-old is softly-spoken and full of nervous energy, with a tendency to giggle after he speaks.
He confesses he'd rather be promoting this new record with his bandmates.
"I'm the singer in The Killers. That's what I am," he says.
"That's a big part of my identity. And I do wish that we were all here. That's the dream - a band of brothers going out to take on the world."
The Desired Effect is Flowers' second solo album - the rest of The Killers are unable, or unwilling, to keep up with his prodigious work rate.
While its predecessor (2010's Flamingo) seemed like an extension of his day job, this record veers towards the melodramatic pop of the late 80s, full of orchestra hits and Phil Collins drum sounds.
Lead single Can't Deny My Love could easily fit on the soundtrack to St Elmo's Fire. And, when it appeared online in March, the response was unanimous: "This is the record we've been waiting for Brandon Flowers to make for years".
"Right when I started doing interviews, I realised I'd made The Killers' second record," he laughs.
"I mean, I made what we were supposed to do on our second album, but we never gave anybody that pleasure. We threw everyone a little bit with Sam's Town."
Did he know that people wanted him to be a pop star?
"No," he replies. "Sometimes you want to be more macho and you want the word 'rock' next to your name. But I'm not ashamed of it or anything. I love pop music. And I definitely have a knack for it."
Flowers spent a year recording the album in Las Vegas and Los Angeles with producer Ariel Rechtshaid (Haim, Vampire Weekend).
Staying true to the 1980s vibe, they enlisted Bruce Hornsby to play piano, and called in a guest appearance from Pet Shop Boy Neil Tennant - who delivers a typically laconic line on the Bronski Beat-sampling I Can Change.
"I just texted Neil with the line and within minutes I got a voice memo," Flowers says.
"We just stuck it right on the computer. It's cool. Incredible. He didn't even hear the song or the tempo or anything. It just worked."
But the sessions weren't entirely smooth.
"Ariel had a big job, because he's used to going in with people who are just starting out," Flowers explains diplomatically.
"I always have a lot of ideas and my demos have a really strong identity. So he had to take it and bring it into his world and pray that we both liked it.
"Sometimes he maybe went a little bit too far."
Rechtshaid was nearly fired "four times", says the singer, "but it was mostly over scheduling. He's a sought after guy right now, and I want all the attention!"
Flowers grew up in America's Southwest. The youngest of six children, he was born in Las Vegas and moved to Utah aged eight when his father became a Mormon.
His elder brother educated him in music, giving him cassettes of British indie bands like New Order and The Cure; and aged 16 he moved back to Las Vegas to live with an aunt, playing keyboards in a group called Blush Response while working as a bellhop.
When the band abandoned him and moved to LA, he stayed behind, answering an advert placed in a local paper by guitarist Dave Keuning.
Inspired by an Oasis gig, they decided to form a group that placed as much emphasis on guitar as the synthesizer. Naming themselves The Killers after a fictional band in a New Order video, they wrote Mr Brightside almost immediately - propelling them to international stardom.
It was a big change for the frontman, whose previous ambition had been to get a job as a car valet.
"That was the top of the ladder," he laughs. "I was working in restaurants and I was a bellman at a hotel and I worked on a golf course. I loved working for tips. It was exciting. And the upper echelon, the top shelf of that in Las Vegas is the valet parkers. They make a lot of money."
He's still connected to that world - writing songs about life on the breadline and the struggle to keep love alive in hard times.
Those fears are crystallised on the track Between Me and You, where Flowers observes a fractured home life, singing:  "chasing every dollar - is that what I was born to do?"
"I really wanted to represent men in this song, and the pressure that is placed on you to provide and lead your family," he says.
"I don't have to worry about that - but I'm definitely not far removed from people that do."
"So I'm speaking about problems I see with people that are around me. I try to take it all in, then you squeeze the sponge and the song comes out."
Flowers says the general theme of The Desired Effect is "growing up" after a decade on the road.
He gave up alcohol nearly eight years ago after recommitting to Mormonism, and spends his days off raising his three young children - cooking barbeques in the back garden and doing the school run.
"I'm a late bloomer but I'm definitely an adult now," he says. "It takes a while."
What does he make of Bono's assertion that rock stars remain frozen at the age they became famous?
"I think it can be a wonderful thing - being young at heart and all of that - but it can also be terrible," he muses.
"You meet people you assume are full-blown grown ups but they've been millionaires since they were 19 because they're in big bands and they act like they're 19. I've witnessed that and I don't want to be like that. I hope that I have grown."
"I'm happy. I'm happy to be on this earth."
The Desired Effect is out now on Virgin EMI.


If you've been on Twitter in the last 48 hours, you'll have seen Gemma Collins trending in the UK.

The TOWIE star caught the attention of the online community after taking an al fresco shower in Sunday's episode of I'm A Celebrity... Get Me Out Of Here.
Trolls made fun of her size with memes, cruel comments and GIFS - while others defended the 33-year-old.
But the tweets, pleasant or not, weren't all being sent to the right Gemma.
Gemma Collis, a wheelchair fencer who competed in the 2012 London Paralympics and was a torchbearer for those games and the 2014 Sochi Winter Olympics, was quick to point out that she was getting some of the tweets aimed at the reality star.
"Please stop tweeting me abuse," she wrote during the first evening of the show.
She later added: "Nobody should be subject to abuse. Bullying directed at anyone is wrong. Upsetting to find many are willing to tweet such horrible things."
But the athlete isn't the first to be the victim of mistaken identity on the social media site.
John describes himself as: "Computer science educator, father of four, social liberal, atheist and not a retail store".
The final bit of detail has been included because of how frequently he is mistaken for the shop.
Recently, he's getting a fair bit of stick about penguins.
In May 2013, the Twitter user with the handle @EdwardSnowden rowed from London to Paris. He says it was "awesome".
A month later, he found himself telling people he wasn't the source of one of the worst information leaks in US history.
Ashley Kerekes' bio reads: "I'm not a freaking cricket match!"
But with the handle @theashes, you can't blame people for sending her their views on how England or Australia are getting on.
Manchester United fans lovingly refer to Dutch striker Robin Van Persie as RVP.
So understandably, when he scored a hat-trick for the club back in April 2013 they wanted to congratulate him online.
Only thing is, the handle @RVP that lots of fans were using belongs to Ravi Prasad, an IT consultant from India.
At the time he told the BBC: "I'm a fan of Robin van Persie, so I understand people wanting to congratulate him... but it's a real nuisance for me."
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A campaign by the family of murdered schoolgirl April Jones calling for tougher sentences for sex offenders has been debated in Parliament.

"April's Law" was debated on Monday after a petition reached more than 100,000 signatures.
It calls for sex offenders to remain on the register for life.
Home Office Minister Sarah Newton said a Supreme Court ruling meant they had the right to appeal against staying on the register for life.
Five-year-old April was killed by paedophile Mark Bridger after being snatched from outside her home in Machynlleth, Powys, in October 2012.
Bridger was not on the sex offenders list but indecent images of young children were found on his computer.
The new petition follows one set up in 2013, which attracted 70,000 signatures.
April's mother Coral Jones said they might have had April back if Bridger had been flagged up.
"With the law, we're hoping if anything happens like this again, it'll flag up and save a child from going through what April did and a family from going through what we did," she said.
April's sister Jazmin Jones said: "It could have been a different scenario. We could have had a life or a body".
She is hoping April's Law could "bring something good out of something really negative".
The family has also called for the internet to be better policed over images of child abuse.
The debate took place in Westminster Hall and the campaign was backed by the family's local MP Glyn Davies.
But Home Office Minister Sarah Newton said a Supreme Court ruling meant sex offenders had the right to appeal against staying on the sex offenders register for life.
Ms Newton said at the time of that ruling the government was "very disappointed" and "remains disappointed today".
"I am very sympathetic to the demands of the petition and the concerns of the Jones family," she said, "and I really understand why they feel this petition is necessary.
"It is precisely because we are determined to do everything we can to protect the public from predatory sex offenders that we made the minimum possible changes to the law to comply with the ruling," she added.


Tottenham boss Mauricio Pochettino is not concerned about his side's mental strength following Saturday's FA Cup semi-final defeat by Chelsea, and is confident they can maintain their Premier League title challenge.

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Spurs, who trail league leaders Chelsea by four points with six games remaining, lost 4-2 at Wembley.
Tottenham were title contenders for much of last season before their challenge faded late on.
"I am not worried," said Pochettino.
"The team is strong, we are focused. For sure we are disappointed but that is football."
Pochettino, whose side have won their last seven league matches, added: "We congratulate Chelsea and now we try to fight for the Premier League, to try to catch them. That is our objective."
Tottenham's defeat means they have now lost a record seven consecutive FA Cup semi-finals.
It also continued their poor run of form at Wembley.
They have lost seven of the nine games they have played at the national stadium since 2007, winning just two of those.
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Spurs could be playing all their home games at Wembley next season while building work continues on White Hart Lane but 45-year-old Argentine Pochettino, who has never won a trophy in his managerial career, believes they were unfortunate to lose on their latest visit.
"We dominated the game but they were more clinical than us," he said.
"I feel proud, we were fantastic in the way we played and in our philosophy.
"We fought a lot, but Chelsea had five shots and scored four goals and we scored only two."
BBC Sport's chief football writer Phil McNulty at Wembley:
Tottenham arrived at Wembley assisted by the head of steam built up after closing Chelsea's lead in the Premier League title race to four points - but it was Antonio Conte's side who made the big statement of intent here at Wembley.
Spurs were favourites in many eyes after their recent run of form and two serious stumbles by Chelsea at home to Crystal Palace and away at Manchester United which saw questions posed about their nerve at the season's pressure points.
Chelsea delivered the answer with a mixture of trademark steel and resilience as well as brilliance from Eden Hazard and Nemanja Matic as they scored the goals that settled a wonderful FA Cup semi-final.
Conte played down the significance of Chelsea's win post-match, perhaps to ease pressure on his own players and apply it to Spurs, but this was a victory that carried real weight for the remaining weeks of the season.
Not only did it put Chelsea in the FA Cup final, it delivered a heavy blow to Spurs, who must have been starting to feel invincible given their recent form.
If Chelsea were harbouring doubts after losing at Old Trafford they will be banished by this win and performance, while Spurs have to recover from a defeat that must damage them, despite the defiance of manager Mauricio Pochettino. This was a win of real footballing and psychological significance.
Battle resumes again on Tuesday as Chelsea face Southampton at Stamford Bridge and Spurs travel to Crystal Palace 24 hours later - with momentum now back with Conte and his players.
Former England captain Alan Shearer, in his BBC Sport column:
Trophy-wise, it now looks like Mauricio Pochettino's team will not have anything to show for their season, and I think the next 12 months is going to be a crucial time for the club.
If you go through the Tottenham team, they have one of the best goalkeepers in the Premier League - if not the best - in Hugo Lloris, and they certainly have the best defender in Toby Alderweireld.
Dele Alli is one of the most sought-after young players in the world and Kane is one of the best strikers in the Premier League, and with Victor Wanyama and Mousa Dembele in midfield they have one hell of a spine.
But all that talent needs to get over the line in something, soon.
They need to win a trophy next season, otherwise I fear that their top players will look to go elsewhere to get some silverware.
Read Shearer's column in full here
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Chelsea boss Antonio Conte's decision to bench key players Eden Hazard and Diego Costa for the game raised a few eyebrows pre match but his decision was vindicated as Willian - who started instead of Hazard - scored two goals.
Hazard then came off the bench to put Chelsea 3-2 ahead before providing the assist for Nemanja Matic to score his side's fourth.
"During the season there is a moment as a coach you must take a strong decision. You have to take a risk," Conte said.
"If you win the plan worked, if you don't the responsibility is on you. I think today our plan worked very well.
"Eden and Diego knew very well my plan because in this situation it is important to be clear to all of the players. Now I hope on Tuesday to get a great performance from Eden and Diego.
"I am proud for this achievement. It is great for the players and for me."
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A British Empire theme restaurant in Australia has been accused of racism and romanticising the colonial era.

British Colonial Co, which opened in July in Brisbane, said it was celebrating the "stylish days" of the British Empire.
It has withdrawn marketing material which said the restaurant had been "inspired by the empirical push into the developing cultures of the world".
The restaurant has said it is "saddened" by the media reports.
"We are very proud of our brand, dining experience and the loyal clientele we have established," it said in a statement.
"We are therefore upset and saddened by today's media reports that our brand is causing offence and distress to some members of the community. This certainly was not our intention."
Comments on social media this week criticised the restaurant's marketing material for ignoring the destructive impact of the British Empire on Australia and other countries.
"The issue is that they romanticised colonisation with no respect to the fact that generation greatly suffered in Australia because of it," said one user on the restaurant's Facebook page.
Another user on Twitter suggested a visit to the restaurant if you are in Brisbane and "in the mood for imperialism and genocide for dinner".
"Are they trying to attract racist clientele?"
Others online didn't think the restaurant's name and decor were that offensive.
"Nothing wrong with being proud of the Empire. Britain did more to elevate the standard of living in more places around the world than any of the natives ever did," said one Facebook user.
The attention has appeared to have an effect on the venue.
The tagline of the restaurant originally read: "Inspired by the stylish days of the empirical push into the developing cultures of the world, with the promise of adventure and modern refinement in a safari setting".
That tagline now reads: "A refined and modern dining experience with the adventure of east meets west in a plantation style, club setting."


Teaching unions have reacted angrily to a new pay deal, under which England's top teachers could get up to 2% rises.

The Department for Education published recommendations for the settlement in England, within the 1% pay limit agreed by ministers in 2012.
The deal means schools will be able to award the most deserving teachers more, but only out of existing budgets.
But teaching unions said as there was no extra money, many teachers would not get the standard 1% rise at all.
In its submission to government, the School Teachers Review Body said evidence presented to it confirmed the need for a pay rise to support the competitiveness of the profession.
It said its recommendations had been made amid a "challenging climate for schools, with tight budgets, demographics driving up pupil numbers and an increasingly competitive graduate labour market".
Christine Blower, general secretary of the NUT, said: "The STRB has acknowledged the NUT's concerns about teacher supply.
"It told the government very clearly that schools are having problems recruiting  NQTs [newly qualified teachers] and experienced teachers alike.
"The STRB also sent a clear signal that it would have increased teachers' pay by more, if the government were willing to fund it."
She added: "The government's decision to freeze school funding means that even a 1% pay increase this year will lead to cuts elsewhere in schools - but its decision to allow schools to decide whether teachers get any increase means that many teachers may not even get 1%.
"The government has to reconsider its policy of cutting funding to schools.
"Schools need more funding and teachers' pay needs to rise.
"Otherwise, we simply won't have enough teachers to cope with growing pupil numbers."
Christine Keates, head of the NASUWT teaching union, said: "Whilst the review body may be acting with the best of intentions in seeking to introduce the opportunity for some teachers to receive up to 2%, unfortunately, this is still within the Treasury pay cap and takes no account of the fact that, thanks to the coalition government's changes to the pay structure, schools can use their pay flexibilities to seek to avoid paying teachers any award at all.
"Thousands of teachers face the prospect of being denied even the meagre cost-of-living award the review body is recommending."
She added: "A survey of NASUWT members found that by December 2014, 51% of teachers had not received the 1% cost-of-living increase last year, which should have been paid in September.
"The profession is already in the grip of a recruitment and retention crisis due to the coalition's relentless attacks on pay, pensions and working conditions.
"Today's announcement will do nothing to address this."
The exact pay of teachers in the maintained sector is set by schools but within nationally agreed levels.
Teachers received a 1% rise last year, in line with the two-year pay cap across the public sector introduced in 2012.
The 1% cap is to be extended to 2015-2016.


Rangers forward Martyn Waghorn is hopeful of being fit in time for the Scottish Cup semi-final against Celtic on 17 April.

Waghorn, 26, has been out since mid-February with a knee injury.
"I'll push myself but I have to be cautious too," he told Rangers' website.
"If everything goes well then there is a chance I could be involved against Celtic but that is just if everything goes spot-on."
The former Wigan Athletic forward has scored 28 goals for the Scottish Championship leaders this season, including four in the cup.
His last appearance was in the fifth-round replay win over Kilmarnock, in which he scored a penalty before being taken off injured.
"The last six or so weeks have been tough, playing Dundee in the cup game and then knowing we have Celtic coming up - hopefully I can get fit and in contention for that," he added.
"I have to be 100 per cent ready - I want to push myself but I don't want to push myself too far in case we get further on in the competition or rule myself out of the latter stages of the season.
"I'm a little bit ahead of schedule. It is going well but I don't want to say it is going great until I can go outside because I haven't tested it as much, we'll know more in the next week to 10 days about whether I am ready to come back."


The SDLP has withdrawn the whip from a councillor for an alleged breach of discipline on social media.

Patsy Kelly, a member of Derry City and Strabane District council, is alleged to have offered his support to Sinn FÃ©in's Pat Doherty on social media during the Westminster elections.
In a statement, the SDLP said an investigation had been launched into the matter.
The whip will be withdrawn from Mr Kelly for a period of four weeks.


Ridding Salford of its organised crime gangs could take a decade, Greater Manchester's outgoing Chief Constable Sir Peter Fahy has told the BBC.

Sir Peter, speaking on his final day in the top job, said local people needed to work with the police to banish gun and gang violence.
There have been 21 shootings in the Salford area over 18 months.
Police revealed hundreds of "Osman" threat-to-life warnings had been issued to people in the city.
In the latest high-profile attack, Christian Hickey, seven, and his mother Jayne were shot in the legs after answering the door in Eccles on 12 October.
Detectives believe the escalating violence has been caused by a personal "falling out" between members of a gang called the A Team.
Sir Peter said: "We will arrest, undoubtedly, people as a result of this particular series of shootings, I'm confident of that.
"The trouble is will it address the underlying issue of organised crime in Salford?
"There are too many families who generation after generation have been engaged in this.
"How do we make sure we mobilise the vast majority of good people to say they've had enough and want it to change, in the way people in Moss Side said they wanted it to change?"
He said too many people were "turning a blind eye" to day-to-day crime such as the drugs trade.
"Certain families have been ruling the roost for many many years. That's the sort of thing that needs to be tackled and it's going to take probably 10 years to do that," he said.
Sir Peter, a police officer since 1981, has been Greater Manchester's chief constable since 2008.
He will now become chief executive of the African street children's charity Retrak.


More than 40 volunteers are taking part in re-chalking a 232-year-old hill figure in Wiltshire.

The Cherhill White Horse, cut into the Marlborough Downs, is owned and maintained by the village of Cherhill.
The 18th Century landmark underwent a major facelift in 2002 after losing its whiteness and shape, but now requires a "re-chalking" every two years.
David Grafton, from Cherhill, said 14 tons of chalk would be needed to "groom the horse" and restore it.
The horse is the second oldest in Wiltshire and one of nine in the county.
To combat discolouring from the weather, it used to be continuously scraped to reveal fresh chalk.
Now, to avoid the figure sinking below the surrounding ground, the ancient monument is topped up with extra chalk.
"The chalk had been bagged up and transported up the hill, ready to be slid down the bank to the horse," said Mr Grafton.
"After the surface of the horse has been cleaned of weeds and the outline tidied, the chalk will be spread on the cleaned surface. Obviously, the work will not do itself so additional volunteers are welcome to come and help."
The re-chalking is taking place from 10:00 BST and is expected to take up to six hours.


Former Great British Bake Off hosts Mel and Sue are to host the return of BBC classic show The Generation Game.

It has been commissioned for an initial four-episode run, although a launch date has yet to be set.
"It's a cuddly toy, it's a toaster, it's a circular power saw, no it's Mel and Sue doing the Generation Game! We can't believe it, we are so excited!" the hosts said.
The new show will combine aspects of the original series with new games.
Perkins had hinted earlier this month on Radio 4's Desert Island Discs that the presenting duo might reunite for another TV project soon, after quitting The Great British Bake Off last year when the BBC lost the rights to Channel 4.
"I'm very hopeful Mel and I will do some pratting about, but I couldn't tell you exactly what yet. Possibly some prime-time pratting," she told Kirsty Young.
BBC Studios said audiences had identified the Generation Game as "the TV show that viewers most wanted to see back on their screens".
The show sees pairs of family members across generations take part in performance and task-based games, with the ultimate goal of facing the Conveyor Belt.
This is a memory test whereby the winning pair watches prizes pass on the belt before attempting to remember each one to win it, from household appliances to the infamous cuddly toy.
All the family pairs will start the show in the studio audience and only find out which game they are playing when Mel and Sue announce them.
A panel of star judges will score the pairs after each game and decide which will get to face the Conveyor Belt.
Charlotte Moore, the director of BBC content, said: "The Generation Game is an iconic BBC One show, so to be able to bring it back for today's audience with Mel and Sue overseeing things is a wonderful moment for the channel."
The Generation Game began on BBC One in 1971, with Sir Bruce Forsyth as its longest-serving host. The entertainer fronted the show for two spells from 1971 to 1977 and 1990 to 1994.
The Generation Game was presented by Larry Grayson between 1978 and 1982 and Jim Davidson from 1995 to 2002.
There have also been two one-off editions of the show. Graham Norton presented a Christmas edition in 2005, while Vernon Kay took charge of a version for Comic Relief in 2011.
In 2014, one of the contestants on the Comic Relief special, Miranda Hart, was reported to be in talks to host a revival herself.
The announcement of the show's revival with Mel and Sue was described by comedian Susan Calman on Twitter as "smashing", while Sally-Ann Burgon tweeted: "Just perfect, literally just the most perfect "regeneration" of a show".
But Mark Rice was among several people to wonder why an old format was being revived, tweeting: "Love Mel and Sue but, seriously, the Generation Game? Can the BBC not come up with any fresh ideas for such great presenters?"
Meanwhile, Daily Mirror TV critic Ian Hyland mischievously suggested: "The BBC should put Mel & Sue's Generation Game on at the same time as Bake Off on C4. And have a cake icing round featuring Mary Berry."
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The unveiling of the new leadership has dominated newspapers across China and provoked lively discussion online, despite stringent censorship, with world media also reflecting on the pivotal transfer of power.

Netizens reacted faster to the widely-expected news that Xi Jinping is replacing Hu Jintao in the top job, with newspapers carrying mainly factual reports.
Ahead of the announcement, many of the papers praised the successful end of the party congress, where the committee that signed off on Mr Xi and the other six members of the Standing Committee were selected.
The Global Times described it as "worthy of congratulations". In what appeared a nod to the Bo Xilai scandal, it added that "some unexpected events happened before the congress, but because of this, China has shown the world its ability to deal with emergencies and consolidate unity".
Beijing News stressed the importance of an orderly succession, quoting a Xinhua report. By stepping down from the Central Committee, the elder Communist Party members had shown a sharp sense of integrity, it said.
Immediately after the new line-up was revealed most papers carried factual reports on Mr Xi's speech - their editorials will likely come later.
The official Communist Party mouthpiece, People's Daily, in a commentary piece published after the unveiling, said the congress provided "a fine blueprint for happiness and strong leadership". "The Chinese Communist Party has once again completed its process of handing over from old to new", it added.
Hong Kong media carried more reaction to the announcement.
Hong Kong broadcaster RTHK quoted commentator Johnny Lau, who said that the new line-up showed previous President Jiang Zemin remained influential, and that the age of the Standing Committee meant some members would need to stand down within five years, potentially affecting the stability of the committee.
Hong Kong broadcaster NowTV said that Xi Jinping's new role as military chief also signified Hu Jintao's complete withdrawal. However, it said that "analysts believe this will not diminish Hu Jintao's influence, and that by handing over power, he has set a good precedent".
In Taiwan, commentators home in on China's reform challenges and the future for cross-strait relations.
The congress proposed "for the first time" that Beijing and Taipei should strive for "fair and reasonable arrangements for cross-strait political relations," notes the Central Daily News. "But it does not include words such as 'as soon as possible' or 'active', so it seems that this issue is not urgent."
"Mainland China still has not shaken off its predicament of left-right struggles," says the Economic Daily News. But the Congress may be a turning point, "as long as officials are determined to start social and political reforms that have stalled for 20 years... This will then be a true 'socialist market economy'."
The Taipei-based China Times says the problems of "an extremely big financial burden caused by a widening gap between the rich and the poor, mounting local debt and an ageing population, as well as serious official corruption... will test the wisdom and courage of the new generation of leaders".
On Twitter and Chinese microblog Weibo, there was varied and animated discussion - despite the work of censors.
Although keywords like Xi Jinping, Li Keqiang, "Shiba da" (the 18th congress) and "Zhonggong" (Communist Party of China) were not censored, only posts by accredited accounts were displayed - meaning users' true identities were known and hence shaping the debate.
Users got around this by using workarounds including rhyming words, and the phrases like "17+1" and "10+8".
Microbloggers appeared to be appreciative of Xi Jinping's speech. Gao Ning, a business consultant in Beijing, tweeted via Sina Weibo: "State leaders are finally making colloquial speeches!  (hands clapping)".
Tencent Weibo user "bobo" in Henan province tweeted: "The new leadership's debut speech was a sincere one.  Hope we have a good decade."
Chinese screenplay writer and poet Beichuan tweeted on Sina Weibo: "Xi [Jinping] is more practical.  He can make a difference."
Some Weibo users highlighted expectations of the new leadership. User Qian Ah Jie Amitabha wrote: "It's not really important who is the country's leader. The important thing is whether they can lead the country in a good direction; whether they can reduce corruption and incompetence in the government."
Well-known Chinese blogger Zhou Shuguang (Zuola) tweeted: "Xi Jinping becomes the president?  According to Chinese traditions, when a new emperor comes to the throne, he will give an amnesty.  Let's release [dissidents and activists] Xie Changfa, Guo Quan, Tan Zuoren and Liu Xiaobo from jail!  Then we can all celebrate!"
There was also some cynicism at the unveiling, with users writing "We knew all along" and "the line up has long been organised, but they still insist on so-called elections".
Xiamen Cake Seller expressed disappointment over the line-up, saying: "Up until the last moment, the people had no way of knowing who would lead the country for the next five years, this is one of the darkest moments in the world today."
There was criticism of the late start to the press conference where the leaders were revealed - it was scheduled for 11:00 (03:00GMT), but did not start until 11:50.
One user wrote: "As a rule, shouldn't leaders try to be on time?", whilst another joked "perhaps they have started fighting?".
Abroad, Russian commentaries predict the likelihood of ongoing, warm ties between Moscow and Beijing.
Centrist daily Nezavisimaya Gazeta says the Congress did not bring any surprises; "however, social discontent and environmental problems are growing. According to experts, Russia will stay an important strategic partner in the eyes of China."
"One thing is clear: China will continue the development course it has chosen - socialism with the specific Chinese character," declares state-owned Rossiyskaya Gazeta.
Sheng Shiliang, from China's Xinhua news agency, told the paper that "it is vitally important for us, the Chinese, to be sure that we have a reliable friend, Russia, behind our back".
Meanwhile, Mikhail Rostovskiy in the popular daily Moskovskiy Komsomolets expresses tongue-in-cheek envy of China's political system.
"The Chinese have achieved what Russians have failed to do... to regularly replace their leaders... Think about it: Xi Jinping will rule China at most until 2022-23. Whereas it is highly possible that Vladimir Putin will still be Russian president in 2024."
John Harnaut in the Sydney Morning Herald stresses that the transition is the first to take place "beyond the guiding hands of the [People's Republic's] founding revolutionaries".
He adds: "The stakes are high for all nations in the Asia-Pacific, with China on track to overtake the United States as the world's largest economy during Mr Xi's expected decade-long term. China already dominates the Australian economy to a greater extent than any other country since the 1950s."
"Don't expect dramatic change from China's new leaders," Ben Blanchard advises in South Africa's Business Day newspaper. The Congress has appointed "another all-male cast of politicians whose instincts are to move cautiously on reform".
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Chelsea boss Jose Mourinho says Liverpool captain Steven Gerrard made him a "better manager", before their final Premier League meeting on Sunday.

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The champions host the Reds in one of the 34-year-old's final matches for the Anfield club (16:00 BST kick-off).
"My dear enemy, he has made me a better manager because to stop him has been very difficult," Mourinho said, adding that he tried to sign him three times.
"I am very sad this is the last time I will face him."
Gerrard almost signed for Chelsea during Mourinho's first spell in charge of the Blues in 2005, and the Portuguese revealed he also wanted him at Inter Milan and Real Madrid.
He said of the LA Galaxy-bound player: "It's too late to sign him. He can't play against Liverpool.
"He's done an amazing career with his people. He refused to play in other big clubs, other big leagues, to play only for Liverpool and this is a feeling that stays together.
"Who knows if I'll play against Steven as a Liverpool manager some day?"
If he had convinced Gerrard to join the Blues, Mourinho said he would have successfully paired the midfielder with Frank Lampard - something successive England managers were accused of failing to do.
"I always thought that both were the best two number eights in Europe," he said.
"In my opinion and my vision with them you don't play a number 10, you play with one number six and give the freedom to the two number eights because they score more goals than any number 10.
"So Lampard with 30 goals a season from midfield and Gerrard with 25, they score more goals together than a No 10 and the striker."
Gerrard was in the Liverpool team that defeated Chelsea in the 2005 Champions League semi-final, and then went on to lift the trophy.
However, his connection with the London club will also be remembered for the mistake which led to Demba Ba's goal in the 2-0 win for the Blues at Anfield last season.
The defeat cost Liverpool the advantage in the race for the Premier League title, eventually won by Manchester City.


Rugby league match official Chris Leatherbarrow has died aged 27.

The circumstances of the St Helens referee's death are unconfirmed, but he is survived by his partner Nicola and daughter Daisy.
Rugby Football League chief Nigel Wood, said: "We are all truly shocked and saddened by the news of Chris Leatherbarrow's untimely death.
"This is a dreadful tragedy and our thoughts and prayers are with Chris's family, friends and colleagues."
Tributes have been paid throughout the rugby league community to Leatherbarrow, whose officiating saw him awarded the Championship Referee of the Year award in 2013.
St Helens, his hometown side, said in a statement: "Saints are saddened and shocked to hear of the passing away of Chris Leatherbarrow.
"Chris was well known to the club having refereed our matches and been an integral part of the match officials team. He is also from St Helens.
"Our sincerest and heartfelt sympathies are sent to all Chris' family and friends.
"Once again, this is time for the Rugby League family to come together and not only pay tribute but be strong for everyone. We have no doubt it will."
Clubs throughout Super League and the Championship have posted their sympathies on social media, as have individual colleagues, players, coaches and supporters.
Chris Leatherbarrow's age was amended in this article after guidance from the RFL.


A football fan has been called the "world's most calamitous punter" - after losing 5p on a bet on the Foxes to win the Premier league.

The unnamed gambler put 50p on Claudio Ranieri's team to finish top before the season began at odds of 5,000-1.
But he cashed out after an opening-day win for 5p less than his stake and will now miss out on a £2,500 pay day.
Ladbrokes spokesman David Williams said: "It is an absolute mystery. He must be feeling pretty sick."
Leicester will win the title if they beat Manchester United on Sunday.
If they lose, they could still win the title the following night, if nearest rivals Spurs lose at Chelsea, or with a win over Everton on 7 May.
Williams added: "He must go down as the most calamitous punter in history.
"He must have thought the wheels were going to come off after the first win and decided to cut his losses."
Ladbrokes are in the process of trying to contact the man, who lives in the East Midlands, to offer him a consolation to "soften the blow".


Manchester United's Champions League ambitions ended in controversial circumstances that left manager Sir Alex Ferguson and his players enraged at Old Trafford.

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United looked on course for a place in the quarter-finals at Real Madrid's expense after Sergio Ramos's own goal just after half-time gave them a platform to build on the 1-1 draw from the first leg at the Bernabeu.
The tie was transformed by Turkish referee Cuneyt Cakir's decision to send off Nani for an aerial challenge on Real Madrid defender Alvaro Arbeloa after 56 minutes - a red card that reduced Ferguson and his players to fury.
Jose Mourinho's side, a subdued force until then, took advantage ruthlessly with two goals in three minutes from ex-Tottenham midfield man Luka Modric and former United golden boy Cristiano Ronaldo to move into the last eight.
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United responded superbly with a typical late rally that brought a series of fine saves from Real keeper Diego Lopez, but events midway through a dramatic second half settled the destiny of an enthralling game.
Ferguson's body language after Nani's dismissal screamed anger and injustice and he had good reason to feel United could well have been taking their place in the latter stages until the referee's intervention.
Mourinho now moves on towards his target of a third Champions League with three different clubs while United must concentrate on domestic matters as they close in on a 20th title with a commanding 12-point lead in the Premier League and a place in the quarter-finals of the FA Cup.
Ferguson's decision to drop Wayne Rooney was another of the bold selection decisions the Scot is adept at taking - he also gave Ryan Giggs his 1,000th professional appearance - and he was rewarded with a first half display that mixed strict defensive discipline with attacking threat on the break.
Ronaldo received a rapturous reception that echoed around Old Trafford, responding with a wave and a tap of the hand on his heart in return.
Real's superstar was kept at arm's length in the first half, wasting a free-kick then being frustrated by a fine challenge from United captain Nemanja Vidic when he finally found space in the area.
And Vidic came closest to breaking the deadlock in an engrossing contest when his header hit the post from a Giggs corner, with Danny Welbeck being ruled offside as he attempted to turn in the rebound.
Welbeck's energy and movement was a feature of United's play but he was unable to turn in an inviting rebound when Lopez failed to hold Robin van Persie's initial effort.
Cristiano Ronaldo has scored eight goals in eight Champions League games this season, and 18 in his last 18
Real suffered a blow towards the end of the first half when the dangerous Angel di Maria pulled up holding his hamstring and was replaced by Brazilian Kaka.
United did make the breakthrough three minutes after half-time when Nani won the ball back from Raphael Varane as he failed to clear in the area and his cross took the faintest touch off Welbeck before Ramos deflected the ball past Lopez.
It was reward for United's efforts - but events were to suddenly conspire against them and take this tie beyond their control after 56 minutes.
Nani went into a high challenge with Arbeloa but his eyes were on the ball throughout and United were stunned when referee Cakir waited for the Portuguese to get back on his feet before producing the red card.
Ferguson raced into his technical area to protest while United's players surrounded the official to no avail - United's manager then turning to all parts of Old Trafford and raising his arms and clenching his fists to plead for even louder support.
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It came but the sense that the game had taken a crucial turn against United was underscored as Real struck to make the most of their numerical advantage with two quick goals.
Mourinho's reaction to the red card was to replace Arbeloa with Modric, who took the opportunity to put his struggles at the Bernabeu behind him at the worst possible time for United with a fine equaliser after 66 minutes.
He showed a fine change of pace on the edge of the area before swerving a 20-yard shot past United keeper David de Gea and into the net via the post.
And, inevitably, Ronaldo made his impact with Real's second three minutes later, turning in Gonzalo Higuain's cross from a tight angle at the far post. His celebrations were muted but the travelling Real supporters packed into a corner of Old Trafford were ecstatic.
Rooney was introduced for Tom Cleverley as United showed the spirit and fight that is their trademark as they tackled an impossible task.
Lopez saved crucially from Michael Carrick and Van Persie while Rooney shot over and into the Stretford End from 10 yards.
The keeper also saved acrobatically from another Vidic header although Real remained dangerous on the break with Kaka hitting the post and Ronaldo bringing saves from De Gea.
A night of frustration was summed up by jeers aimed at the referee at the final whistle, jeers that soon turned to applause for United's disappointed players.
Full Time   The final whistle goes and the game is over.
The ball is swung over by Cristiano Ronaldo, save made by David De Gea. Short corner worked by Luka Modric. Luka Modric decides to take the corner short. Luka Modric decides to take the corner short.
Corner taken by Robin van Persie from the right by-line, Nemanja Vidic takes a shot. Save by Rodriguez Diego Lopez.
Shot from 18 yards from Cristiano Ronaldo. Save made by David De Gea.
Effort from deep inside the box by Ricardo Kaka hits the post.
Booking      Kleper Pepe shown a yellow card.
Substitution      Rafael Da Silva goes off and Antonio Valencia comes on.
Cristiano Ronaldo takes a shot. Save by David De Gea.
The ball is swung over by Rafael Da Silva, Raphael Varane makes a clearance.
Robin van Persie takes a shot. Save made by Rodriguez Diego Lopez. Close range effort by Wayne Rooney clears the crossbar.
Corner taken short by Ashley Young. Michael Carrick takes a shot. Save made by Rodriguez Diego Lopez.
Luka Modric concedes a free kick for a foul on Patrice Evra. Free kick taken by Patrice Evra.
Shot from just outside the box by Michael Carrick goes over the crossbar.
Substitution      (Man Utd) makes a substitution, with Ashley Young coming on for Danny Welbeck.
Luka Modric takes a shot. Save by David De Gea.
The assistant referee signals for offside against Cristiano Ronaldo.  Rio Ferdinand takes the free kick.
Danny Welbeck takes a shot. Comfortable save by Rodriguez Diego Lopez.
Patrice Evra takes the free kick.
Substitution      (Man Utd) makes a substitution, with Wayne Rooney coming on for Tom Cleverley.
Booking      Booking for Ricardo Kaka for unsporting behaviour.
Ricardo Kaka challenges Rafael Da Silva unfairly and gives away a free kick.
Corner from left by-line taken by Ryan Giggs.
Booking      Michael Carrick is cautioned by the ref for dissent.
Substitution      Kleper Pepe replaces Mesut Ozil.
The assist for the goal came from Gonzalo Higuain. Ricardo Kaka gives away a free kick for an unfair challenge on Ryan Giggs. Ryan Giggs restarts play with the free kick.
Goal!  - Cristiano Ronaldo -    Man Utd 1 - 2 R Madrid        Cristiano Ronaldo grabs a goal from close range to the bottom right corner of the goal. Man Utd 1 (2)-(3) 2 Real Madrid.
Garcia Sergio Ramos provided the assist for the goal.
Goal!  - Luka Modric -    Man Utd 1 - 1 R Madrid        A goal is scored by Luka Modric from outside the area to the bottom right corner of the goal. Man Utd 1 (2)-(2) 1 Real Madrid.
Robin van Persie takes a shot. Save by Rodriguez Diego Lopez.
Centre by Luka Modric, clearance by Rio Ferdinand.
Inswinging corner taken right-footed by Luka Modric, Gonzalo Higuain takes a shot. Clearance made by Rafael Da Silva. Corner taken left-footed by Mesut Ozil. Xabi Alonso takes a shot. Save by David De Gea.
Corner taken by Mesut Ozil played to the near post, Nemanja Vidic makes a clearance.
Substitution      Luka Modric comes on in place of Alvaro Arbeloa.
Effort on goal by Ricardo Kaka from just inside the area clears the bar.
Free kick crossed by Mesut Ozil, Robin van Persie manages to make a clearance.
Dismissal      Luis Nani is shown a red card.
Free kick awarded for a foul by Luis Nani on Alvaro Arbeloa.
Robin van Persie challenges Garcia Sergio Ramos unfairly and gives away a free kick. Garcia Sergio Ramos takes the free kick.
Gonzalo Higuain crosses the ball.
Cristiano Ronaldo takes a shot. Blocked by Nemanja Vidic.
Outswinging corner taken left-footed by Mesut Ozil played to the near post, Robin van Persie makes a clearance.
Assist on the goal came from Luis Nani.
Goal!  - Garcia Sergio Ramos -    Man Utd 1 - 0 R Madrid        Garcia Sergio Ramos concedes an own goal. Man Utd 1 (2)-(1) 0 Real Madrid.
The second half has started.
Half Time    The players leave the pitch at half time.
Cristiano Ronaldo has an effort at goal from outside the box which goes wide left of the goal.
Substitution      Ricardo Kaka on for Angel Di Maria.
David De Gea takes the direct free kick.
Booking      Alvaro Arbeloa receives a yellow card for unsporting behaviour.
Free kick awarded for an unfair challenge on Patrice Evra by Alvaro Arbeloa.
Robin van Persie takes a shot. Save by Rodriguez Diego Lopez. Danny Welbeck takes a shot. Save by Rodriguez Diego Lopez. Corner from the right by-line taken by Ryan Giggs, Header from close range by Nemanja Vidic misses to the right of the goal.
Alvaro Arbeloa gives away a free kick for an unfair challenge on Luis Nani. Patrice Evra takes the direct free kick.
Mesut Ozil takes the inswinging corner, Raphael Varane takes a shot. Save made by David De Gea. Gonzalo Higuain takes a shot. Save by David De Gea. Outswinging corner taken by Angel Di Maria from the left by-line. Garcia Sergio Ramos gives away a free kick for an unfair challenge on Robin van Persie. David De Gea restarts play with the free kick.
Gonzalo Higuain produces a cross, clearance by Michael Carrick.
Angel Di Maria crosses the ball, clearance made by Rafael Da Silva. Outswinging corner taken left-footed by Mesut Ozil from the left by-line to the near post. Mesut Ozil delivers the ball, Sami Khedira takes a shot. David De Gea makes a save.
Shot by Luis Nani. Garcia Sergio Ramos gets a block in.
Sami Khedira produces a cross, Cristiano Ronaldo takes a shot. Rafael Da Silva gets a block in.
Cristiano Ronaldo takes a shot. Nemanja Vidic gets a block in.
Tom Cleverley gives away a free kick for an unfair challenge on Alexandre Fabio Coentrao. Direct free kick taken by Alexandre Fabio Coentrao.
Danny Welbeck takes a shot. Blocked by Garcia Sergio Ramos. Corner from the left by-line taken by Luis Nani, Effort from inside the area by Robin van Persie misses to the right of the goal.
Sami Khedira challenges Patrice Evra unfairly and gives away a free kick. David De Gea takes the direct free kick.
Cristiano Ronaldo delivers the ball, clearance made by Tom Cleverley.
Corner taken by Ryan Giggs, Nemanja Vidic takes a shot. Save made by Rodriguez Diego Lopez. Robin van Persie is caught offside. Rodriguez Diego Lopez restarts play with the free kick.
Angel Di Maria takes the free kick.
Booking      Patrice Evra receives a caution.
Free kick awarded for an unfair challenge on Angel Di Maria by Patrice Evra.
Luis Nani crosses the ball, Raphael Varane gets a block in. Luis Nani takes the inswinging corner, clearance made by Angel Di Maria.
Angel Di Maria fouled by Patrice Evra, the ref awards a free kick. Direct free kick taken by Angel Di Maria.
Free kick awarded for an unfair challenge on Michael Carrick by Mesut Ozil. Nemanja Vidic restarts play with the free kick.
The ball is sent over by Ryan Giggs, Robin van Persie takes a shot from 12 yards. Garcia Sergio Ramos gets a block in. Inswinging corner taken by Luis Nani from the left by-line. The referee blows for offside. Rodriguez Diego Lopez takes the direct free kick.
The ball is crossed by Luis Nani, clearance by Alexandre Fabio Coentrao. Robin van Persie takes a inswinging corner from the right by-line to the near post, Gonzalo Higuain makes a clearance.
Free kick awarded for an unfair challenge on Rafael Da Silva by Gonzalo Higuain. Ryan Giggs takes the direct free kick. Effort from the edge of the penalty box by Gonzalo Higuain goes wide of the right-hand upright.
Robin van Persie is ruled offside. Rodriguez Diego Lopez takes the free kick.
The ball is delivered by Angel Di Maria, Michael Carrick gets a block in. Corner from left by-line taken by Angel Di Maria. The ball is swung over by Xabi Alonso.
Free kick awarded for an unfair challenge on Xabi Alonso by Danny Welbeck. Xabi Alonso takes the free kick.
Robin van Persie is flagged offside by the assistant referee. Rodriguez Diego Lopez takes the direct free kick.
Garcia Sergio Ramos concedes a free kick for a foul on Robin van Persie. Ryan Giggs takes the direct free kick.
Alexandre Fabio Coentrao fouled by Ryan Giggs, the ref awards a free kick. Cristiano Ronaldo has an effort direct from the free kick.
Xabi Alonso is adjudged to have handled the ball. Rio Ferdinand takes the direct free kick.
The referee gets the match started.
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A woman has died in a house fire in Birmingham.

The fire started shortly after 22:30 GMT on Saturday in the kitchen of a semi-detached property in Britford Close, Kings Heath.
The woman was found in the building by firefighters and was treated by paramedics at the scene.
West Midlands Ambulance Service said "nothing could be done to save the woman and she was confirmed dead at the scene".
West Midlands Fire Service said investigators were trying to establish how it started.


Yeovil Town goalkeeper Jonny Maddison has signed a new two-year deal.

The 22-year-old joined the Glovers from Leicester City on a one-year contract last summer and made 11 appearances in all competitions in 2016-17.
"Jonny is a good young keeper with huge potential," boss Darren Way told the club website.
"He was thrown in and had to play a major contribution. He's a fantastic character, works extremely hard and I'm sure he has a bright future."


A Palestinian held without charge by Israel has lost consciousness after nearly two months on hunger strike in protest at his detention.

Mohammed Allan, an alleged activist for the Islamic Jihad militant group, was on a respirator and was being given fluids, an Israeli hospital said.
His case is being seen as a test of a recent Israeli law authorising the force-feeding of hunger strikers.
Israeli doctors are challenging the law, which they say is unethical.
The Israeli Medical Association has described force-feeding as tantamount to torture and a violation of a patient's rights. It has urged doctors to refuse orders to perform the procedure.
Supporters of the law say force-feeding is necessary to save prisoners from death, and to discourage them from using hunger strikes as a tactic to end - or draw attention - to their detention.
It is not yet known if Mr Allan will be subjected to the controversial procedure, in which doctors forcibly insert a tube into the empty stomach. The decision could depend on his medical condition.
A statement from the Barzilai hospital, where Mr Allan is being treated, said his condition had deteriorated on Friday morning but remained stable.
"The treatment is being administered according the ethics committee guidelines and includes respiration and intravenous fluids and saline," a hospital statement said.
Jamil al-Khatib, a lawyer for Mr Allan, told the AFP news agency that he had heard his client had gone into a coma and that Israeli authorities were planning to force-feed him.
However, an Arab-Israeli MP, Osama Saadi, told the Associated Press news agency that Mr Allan was not being force-fed and was not in coma.
Mr Allan has been held without charge since November.


An unexploded Second World War bomb has been discovered close to Borussia Dortmund's Signal Iduna Park ground.

The 550lb device, reported by German broadcaster DW as being of British origin, was found on Thursday and plans are in place to try and defuse it.
The discovery came just hours before Dortmund boss Jurgen Klopp was due to give a news conference ahead of Saturday's derby against Schalke.
The 80,720-capacity stadium and the surrounding area was evacuated.
"It is not yet known how long the stadium area will remain off limits," Dortmund, who shut their Fan World space and club museum, said in a brief statement.
The bomb was found at a parking area to the west of the Signal Iduna Park and was discovered after viewing aerial photographs.
Finding unexploded World War II bombs is a relatively common occurrence in Germany where several million tonnes of bombs were dropped during the 1939-45 war by Allied and Soviet forces.
The city of Dortmund suffered extensive destruction during bombing raids.


Olympic skeleton champion Lizzy Yarnold sits fourth at the World Championships after the second run was cancelled because of heavy snow.

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Yarnold, 28, completed her first run in 52.29 seconds, just 0.02secs outside the medal places, but had fallen to 13th after her second run.
However, the second run times will now not count towards the final standings.
Fellow Briton Laura Deas, 28, had moved up to a provisional second but will now resume on Saturday 13th in Konigssee.
Run three will begin at 07:30 GMT, with run four to follow from 09:30 GMT.
Yarnold is competing in her first World Championships since taking a year-long sabbatical.
The 2015 world champion, starting 15th, held on to fourth after the first round before a slide of 54.02 in round two saw her fall down the standings as conditions worsened.
Deas improved from a first run of 52.76 to post a total time of one minute 45.29 seconds after two completed runs, putting her into the silver medal position until the results were annulled.
Germany's Jacqueline Loelling is first with a time of 52.02, with compatriot and 2016 champion Tina Hermann 0.06secs behind and Canada's Elisabeth Vathje in third place.
Briton Donna Creighton is 22nd out of the 31 sliders.
In the men's competition, sliders were able to complete both runs on day one - Dominic Parsons the highest-placed Briton in ninth, 1.93 seconds behind leader Martins Dukurs of Latvia.
Fellow Britons Jeremy Rice and Jack Thomas are in 18th and 21st respectively, with the men's event set to conclude on Sunday.
Women's standings:
1 Jacqueline Loelling (Ger) 52.02 seconds
2 Tina Hermann (Ger) +0.06 seconds
3 Elisabeth Vathje (Can) +0.25 seconds
4 Lizzy Yarnold (GB) +0.27 seconds
5 Kim Neylemans (Bel) +0.33 seconds
Men's standings:
1 Martins Dukurs (Lat) 1 minute 41.95 seconds
2 Nikita Tregybov (Rus) +0.76 seconds
3 Axel Jungk (Ger) +0.86 seconds
4 Alexander Tretiakov (Rus) +0.90 seconds
5 Alexander Gassner (Ger) +0.97 seconds


One of disgraced entertainer Rolf Harris's highest profile works of art was his portrait of the Queen, but where is the painting now?

Questions have been asked about the work amid speculation about Harris facing compensation claims after being convicted of a series of sex attacks.
Harris's oil painting was undertaken as part of a BBC television documentary to mark the Queen's 80th birthday. The monarch sat twice for Harris to paint her over the summer of 2005.
After it was unveiled in December that year, the portrait, which took Harris two months to complete, initially went on public display at the Queen's Gallery in Buckingham Palace.
But this was just a six-month display. A Royal Collection spokeswoman says: "It was only loaned to us briefly". She says she did not know where the painting, which is not part of the Royal Collection, ended up.
The BBC, which originally approached Buckingham Palace asking whether the Queen would be willing to sit for the painting, said it was not in its possession.
"We've been asked about this before and the position hasn't changed. The BBC does not have this painting in its collection," a spokeswoman says. She would not address the issue of the painting's ownership.
Harris offered the painting to the National Portrait Gallery, but it was turned down.
The work appears to have been most recently displayed by Liverpool's Walker Gallery, which said it had been part of Harris's private collection. It was on show in 2012 as part of an exhibition of his work, all of which came from private owners.
A Walker Gallery spokeswoman says that after the exhibition finished in August 2012, the painting was returned to Whitewall Galleries, which is understood to have had a commercial relationship with Harris. Harris launched the gallery chain's Liverpool branch in 2011 and a Google search shows that his work was previously listed on the Whitewall Galleries website, although he has now been removed.
Whitewall Galleries has yet to respond to requests for a comment and it is not known whether the painting is in Whitewall's, or Harris's, possession.
Bell Pottinger, the PR firm hired to represent Harris during his trial, could not confirm whether the 84-year-old had the painting in his possession.
It is unclear how much the Queen portrait or any of Harris's other work is now worth. After being valued at Â£50,000 on the BBC's Antiques Roadshow, a Harris painting of singer Bonnie Tyler failed to meet its Â£25,000 reserve price with auctioneer John Taylors, in Louth, in 2012.
James Laverack, of John Taylors, said Harris was a "talented artist" but the value of his work would have "dropped considerably" since the abuse allegations first emerged.
"Prices started to rise when he did the Queen's portrait, and he became considered a serious artist rather than just a TV celebrity," says Laverack.
It will be hard to gauge the extent of the value drop until some of Harris's works next goes to auction, he added.
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One of the finest old mansions in Wales is making history with a new technology that sucks heat from sea water.

Plas Newydd, with spectacular views of Snowdon from Anglesey, will in future have its collection of past military uniforms warmed by a heat pump.
It's the biggest UK scheme of its kind and shows a way in which buildings can be heated without imported gas or oil.
It relies on a heat exchanger, which uses a system akin to refrigeration to amplify warmth from pipes in the sea.
The 300kW marine source heat pump cost the National Trust Â£600,000 and is expected to save around Â£40,000 a year in operating costs.
The proceeds will be returned to the conservation of the 18th century mansion, which boasts relics from the Battle of Waterloo and a spectacular mural by Rex Whistler.
Heat pumps are likely to become more common as the UK attempts to decarbonise its heating systems, which (unlike electricity) are almost totally dependent on fossil fuels.
The pumps use a compressor and a heat exchanger to suck heat from the air, the ground, or - in this case - water.
The system uses electricity to work the exchanger and the pump, and is only efficient if the final heat is usable at a relatively low temperature.
At Plas Newydd it will reach just 55C, but this is perfect for keeping the building at a steady warmth for conservation.
Adam Ellis-Jones, from the National Trust, said: "With the Irish Sea right on the doorstep, a marine source heat pump is the best option for us.
"Being a pioneer is never easy. There are very few marine source heat pumps and none of this size in the UK, so it has been a challenging project - but a very exciting one."
Plas Newydd was previously the National Trust's most polluting property, warmed entirely by an oil-fired boiler.
The use of heat pumps is growing as the government looks to subsidise low-carbon heat sources, but they are by no means universally suitable.
Currently they only pay back under certain circumstances - for instance if a property like Plas Newydd  is not connected to the gas grid and relies on expensive oil heating; or if it has been designed to be high-efficiency so it only needs low-grade heat; or if it generates its own electricity through renewables so the power to run the heat exchanger is virtually free.
Air source heat pumps, which suck in air from outside, are the cheapest type to install, but they are the least efficient on the coldest days. Then it is better to have a ground or water source heat pump, with pipes buried underground or underwater, because water and ground will be warmer than air.
Homes with under-floor heating are better suited to heat pumps because they require large amounts of warm water at a relatively low heat.
Tobi Kellner co-wrote the Zero Carbon Britain report for the Centre for Alternative Technology at Machynlleth in mid Wales. He told BBC News that if the UK sticks to its aim to cut CO2 emissions 80% by 2050, heat pumps will be essential.
"Today heat pumps are not the 'green' heat source of choice for most households because of the polluting nature of our power stations," he said.
"In a future where most electricity is produced from renewables this picture would change fundamentally as heat pumps deliver most of the energy required for heating homes.
"Heat pumps could also play an important role in balancing supply and demand in future energy systems. Electricity is difficult to store, but heat can be stored easily in the form of hot water."
He calculates that running heat pumps when wind power output is high and demand low - on, say, a windy night - then storing heat in hot water cylinders or storage caverns could help solve the problems of variable output from renewables.
The National Trust is pressing ahead with low-carbon developments across its huge estate. Its managers are uncomfortably aware that these improvements are heavily subsidised by a levy on the bills of all energy users, including the poorest.
If its remaining five renewables pilots succeed, the Trust will invest in 43 further renewables schemes.
A National Heat Map will be published at the end of June, showing the rivers in England that have the highest potential for water source heat pumps.
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Heavily armed attackers have launched co-ordinated assaults on several army barracks in Burundi.

An army spokesman said in a statement that 12 insurgents had been killed and another 20 arrested.
Witnesses described hearing gunfire and explosions for several hours, in Musaga in the south and Ngagara in the north.
The incident is the worst violence since an attempted coup in May, sparked by President Pierre Nkurunziza's third-term bid.
UN officials have recently accused both government and opposition figures of stirring up ethnic tension between Hutus and Tutsis, amid fears of a return to genocide.
Earlier reports had said up to five soldiers had been killed, but an army spokesman now says five soldiers were wounded in the attacks.
Resident of the capital, Bujumbura, have taken cover at home and are too frightened to go to work or send their children to school, reports the BBC's Prime Ndikumagenge from the city.
The attacks are the first on military targets since the coup attempt, he says.
Airlines including Kenya Airways and RwandAir have cancelled flights to Bujumbura due to a lack of airport personnel, though it is not clear if the airport has been officially closed.
The neighbourhoods where the attacks occurred are seen as opposition strongholds, correspondents say.
It is not clear who is behind the attacks but a presidential adviser said that government opponents had been trying to create a diversion to free prisoners.
The adviser, Willy Nyamitwe, said the insurgents had failed, describing them as Sindjuma, meaning "I am not a slave".
Witnesses say that artillery fire was heard during the attacks on an army base in Ngarara and the ISCAM Higher Institute of Military Training in Musaga, AFP reports.
An army camp known as BASE, near ISCAM, was also attacked, Reuters reported, citing a soldier.
"After more than two hours of clashes, the army repulsed the southern attack, while virtually all the attackers were killed in the Ngagara base," a senior army officer told AFP.
Security forces are conducting aggressive search operations following the attacks, reports SOS Medias Burundi, an underground group of independent journalists.
Mr Nkurunziza won a disputed election in July.
At least 240 people have been killed since April. More than 200,000 people have fled to neighbouring countries, the UN says.
In recent months, there have been daily killings of both opposition activists and Nkurunziza supporters.
April 2015 - Protests erupt after President Pierre Nkurunziza announces he will seek a third term in office.
May 2015 - Constitutional court rules in favour of Mr Nkurunziza, amid reports of judges being intimidated. Tens of thousands flee violence amid protests.
May 2015 - Army officers launch a coup attempt, which fails.
July 2015 - Elections are held, with Mr Nkurunziza re-elected. The polls are disputed, with opposition leader Agathon Rwasa describing them as a "joke".
November 2015 - Burundi government gives those opposing President Nkurunziza's third term five days to surrender their weapons ahead of a promised crackdown.
November 2015 - UN warns it is less equipped to deal with violence in Burundi than it was for the Rwandan genocide
10.4m population
50 years - life expectancy for a man
2nd poorest country in the world
85% are Hutu, 14% Tutsi
300,000 died in civil war


Britain's Andy Murray says reaching Grand Slam finals mean more to him now than they did earlier in his career.

Murray, 29, will compete in his 11th major final when he plays Milos Raonic in the men's Wimbledon final on Sunday.
The second seed, who has won two of his 10 finals, said: "Maybe I'm now more excited than when I was younger.
"The tournaments start to mean more to you the older you get and you start to appreciate the history of the events probably more as you get older."
It is the first time Murray, who first contested a Slam final at the US Open in 2008, will compete for a major title without either 17-time major champion Roger Federer or Novak Djokovic, the world number one, on the other side of the net.
It is sixth seed Raonic's first Slam final and 2013 champion Murray, in his third Wimbledon final, hopes to take advantage of the Canadian's inexperience.
"It never feels normal," said Murray. "I never take it for granted. I know how difficult it is to make the finals of these events and how hard they are to win.
"You never know how anyone's going to deal with the pressure of a Slam final. So I'll just have to go out there and concentrate on my side, do what I can to prepare well for it and see what happens.
"When I played my first one, it all came round really quickly for me. Again, these tournaments are why I'm still playing and why I'm training hard and trying to win these events. That's what really motivates me.
"But Milos is a very tough opponent. He's played very well on the grass this year and has earned his right to be in the final by beating one of the best - if not the best player - ever at this event. So he deserves to be there."
Raonic, who overcame seven-time champion Federer in five sets on Friday, has added three-time Wimbledon champion John McEnroe to his coaching team this year, while Murray reunited with Ivan Lendl before the start of the grass-court season.
The pair split in March 2014, but it was with Lendl by his side that Murray won his two Grand Slam titles - the US Open in 2012 and Wimbledon in 2013 - and Murray said the 56-year-old, a winner of eight Slams between 1984 and 1990, offers important experience of major events.
"In these situations it can make a difference," he said of Lendl's presence.
"I don't think he'd be doing this job if he didn't believe in me and believe that I could win these events, because he doesn't need to.
"Also the information I get from him, the psychological help that I get from having him around, being able to chat to him at these events, before the big matches, makes a difference."
Raonic said McEnroe had helped make him more vocal on court, and encouraged him to "leave it all out there".
The presence of McEnroe in the commentary box rather than in the players' box during Raonic matches at Wimbledon has been criticised by some, but the Canadian said it did not make a difference.
"He's been a positive influence. I've dealt with that. That's the way it is, it's the terms we came to. From the beginning, we had a clear understanding," he said.
Lendl said Sunday's final was not about him and McEnroe: "I understand it does (add spice) for everyone else but me. It's not about John and I, it's about Andy trying to win."
Murray is on a five-match winning run against Raonic, having last beaten him in the Queen's final last month after coming back from a set and a break down.
Raonic said his thrilling five-set victory over Federer had not taken too much out of him before he prepared to meet a player with whom he has a 6-3 head-to-head deficit.
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"I think you disregard that very quickly," said Raonic. "It's a Slam final. A lot of adrenaline, all this stuff takes over and you keep fighting through. I have a great opportunity on Sunday.
"Andy is one of the premier workaholics. He tries to sort of get you doing a lot of different things. He'll try to throw you off, give you some slower balls, some harder balls, all these kinds of things. I guess my goal is to keep him away from that, play it on my terms, be aggressive, not hesitate."


Newport County have signed teenage defender Ben White from Premier League side Brighton on a season-long loan.

The 19-year-old has made two appearances for the south coast team, including a debut in last season's 4-0 EFL Cup win over Colchester United.
White should be available for the League Two opening match of the season at Stevenage on Saturday.
"This is a big coup for the club and I'm delighted to get Ben in," said Newport manager Mike Flynn.


Britain's Katarina Johnson-Thompson says she has withdrawn from this week's European Indoor Championships in Serbia to focus on her outdoor season.

The 24-year-old heptathlete was ruled out of last month's Birmingham Indoor event with a minor hamstring strain.
Johnson-Thompson was due to compete in the long jump in Belgrade.
"I'm healthy/happy and in full training. I just want to concentrate on the outdoor season, as originally planned," she wrote on Instagram.
"Shame I won't be there, as I have such fond memories of last time! But playing the long game."
A British Athletics spokesman added: "The injury is fine but she didn't want to go there and not win, so she is making up for the training she missed."
Multi-eventer Ashley Bryant will captain the British team in Serbia.
Men: 60m: Richard Kilty, Andrew Robertson, Theo Etienne; 800m: Guy Learmonth, Kyle Langford; 1,500m: Tom Lancashire; 3,000m: Nick Goolab; 60m hurdles: Andrew Pozzi, David King, David Omoregie; High jump: Robbie Grabarz, Chris Kandu, Allan Smith; Long jump: Dan Bramble; Combined events: Ashley Bryant, Liam Ramsey.
Women: 60m: Asha Phillip; 400m: Eilidh Doyle, Laviai Nielsen, Lina Nielsen; 800m: Shelayna Oskan-Clarke; 1,500m: Laura Muir, Eilish McColgan, Sarah McDonald; 3,000m: Laura Muir, Eilish McColgan, Steph Twell; High jump: Morgan Lake; Long jump: Lorraine Ugen, Jazmin Sawyers; Shot put: Rachel Wallader; 4x400m: Eilidh Doyle, Laviai Nielsen, Lina Nielsen, Philippa Lowe, Mary Iheke.